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You dont have to have Odin to win 10 hard battles. Just do them in manual. You only need to do 1 or 2 a day to earn the rewards. If you would just work with your clan and develop some teams instead of whining you may have been done by now. Why not ask you troopers who have Odin to make them your champ, then you could complete the challenge without having one yourself
i know exactly what I'm talking about... a max awakened toon that does as much damage as a wet tea bag, he's massively underpowered and without talismans that will prevent damage he's dead in no timeQuote:
Originally Posted by Mateja
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I don't even know what to do with this. Hard to spend currency you can't collect.
Hi Olevipoeg.Quote:
Originally Posted by Olevipoeg
If you already completed the challenges before the adjustments were applied, this is how it will look. I've just confirmed in your account that you successfully completed these challenges a couple hours before the update was made, and you successfully received your rewards!
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If devs are going to build AI teams with SIX characters having SIX OP talisman sets and SIX passives to overcome, the LEAST they could do is allow players to ALSO have SIX characters with SIX talisman sets and SIX passives... not 4. Otherwise, the goal CLEARLY seems to be to spend ironite... and thus spend real money (even more so by saddling everyone with Musashi and no Eddie that first run through). I'm not advocating for all "easy" dungeons.. but an EQUAL match would be a nice change. Note how in the Infernal hard battles where the player goes first EVERY time.. the AI has Starfire talismans at play... if the AI goes first EVERY time, there's an innate stun at play... it's DESIGNED specifically to be far too overpowered.
Combine this with the "new" clan mythical souls that only drop shit Alchemist frags... yeah I know they are SUPPOSED to drop better rewards.. I ain't seen in any MANY mythicals though. It's like a big "FU!" to players.
It is these types of discrepancies that have seen my play time drop and certainly any real world money spending fall off considerably. I grow tired of a dev team that clearly isn't concerned with "enjoyability" on the users side.
Round 3 is stupid, double blockers taking no damage below 50% makes no sense. If I use double blockers against Baphomet, both take damage past 50%, but not here.
The way that double blockers work here or in gaunlet should be considered a bug and corrected. If not we'll start seeing a bunch or almost invincible teams; for example a team that prevent passive disable (Necropolis/ one guy with Niflheim) + double blockers. Or double Yggdrasil team. These "almost invincible teams" that you can only beat with a max odin or innate passive disable will be really boring
Me too; the game was actually challenging for the better part of a day and I was halfway to completing the talisman requirement when it got nerfed. Now it's just another boring grind that can be achieved with zero thought.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fudjo
More difficult events would make this feel more like a game and less like a "pick 4 half decent toons and hit play" drudgery fest. Maybe include some insanely hard goals with insanely good rewards for those of us who are bored with running easy key dungeons X number of times?
Oh totally. Everyone complains if the dungeon can't be auto-farmed with a sub-minute team, but they'll also complain that it's too boring if you CAN do that. It's good to get a nutcracker of a dungeon sometimes - it's a more rewarding puzzle to solve.Quote:
Originally Posted by Discordian
My criticisms of the event (as it launched) are really just that the 3rd wave causes a CPU overload problem 'cause of the Tengu, and that there seemed to be only one reliable path to success (Purple Odin delivery system) which required very-difficult-to-obtain equipment to do it (mainly a Purple Odin). Even then, 100 runs on manual (not even 20 a day) without a Purple Odin is all it would have taken to get a Paranoia T3, and there are teams that can do it.
I'm all for adding challenge dungeons but it's simply poor design to have an event where you can only get the event currency from a difficulty level that is too hard for all but a very small subset of players. Even more so when the main reward is a powerful cosmic.Quote:
Originally Posted by Discordian
I've got a good roster and can generally pass SS rank at Gauntlet... but trying to finish the dungeon on manual let alone auto was just miserable. I haven't seen a single auto team without Assassin Odin - who only a small minority of players have.
The answer is of course to have some challenges that are accessible to all players, and some difficult challenges with incremental rewards for the hardcore players.
100 runs on manual is still completely unrealistic. That's probably 10+ hours worth right there, manually running the same dungeon over and over. No thanks.
Infernal (Hard) is still just as hard as it was yesterday and you still need at least 10 runs of it to complete the event achievements.Quote:
Originally Posted by Discordian
Difficulty is a good thing and aside from the third wave issue I don't actually want any changes to the dungeon. All of the dungeons have their trick to them that unlock the "100% decent success and decent speed" and I'm okay with it being a not easy thing to achieve and that run being a bit longer with better rewards that come from the higher level dungeon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fudjo
My main issue with how the event exists post changes is that 20% of the event frags live behind that trick especially when normally the stretch goals don't even have event frags as rewards. It's the inconsistency that rubs me the wrong way.
That's why in my initial assessment of the event wasn't "OMG WE NEED TO NERF THIS IMPOSSIBLE DUNGEON" but instead a redistribution of event frags so that the event was more accessible to a larger player base.
Something we more experienced players sometimes forget is that even the normal level of infernal is already challenging for a decent amount of players given that assassins tend to be glass cannons and depending on your roster you might not have the right characters who can wear the useful talismans.
Damned bugs.... despite the fact that Hard is just impossible on auto, I just noticed that many of the event challenges are bugged: only the first repeatable challenge counts - now 6/10 times done, however the other repeatable "clear any difficulty of infernal dungeon) stopped counting after 3 runs..... :S
I counted the fragments over and You are right. This is only visual glitch. I'm sorry of confusion. Thank You for clearing this up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Leviathan
how do we claim the frags for the 10 run goals, 10/10 done but the go button is there and cant claim them
Can't pass story mod.
Have any team for story mode?
From my experience, running hard level once helped me to recieve the frags from 10 run goals. Worth a try
I did it with max moonchild and max sevastopol. Round 3 is just an exploit of double-blockers (a bug in my opinion). Key is to disable passive of magus dog and hit the guy with yggdragsil, wont be easy, but when one falls the "double-bloker bug" stops working even if they are revived. I guess any toon that's capable of disable passives can work, I used moonie.Quote:
Originally Posted by Rigo
Thanks for reply. Which talismans can I use on Moonchild and Sevastopol? Thanks againQuote:
Originally Posted by Bartman9999
Has anyone tried the paranoia talisman on FotD? Is it a change to make him hit better and become useful? I have him with frontier (overwhelming) and cosmic iron. His attack is a total of 2700 and special is at 1300. His health is at 32000 and defence is at 2900. He still doesn't hut that hard and I'm not sure this talisman is going to change that. Any ideas or input?
He he, 100th reply be like
I have tried FotD with the Paranioa T3 - nada. No Paranoia effect caused in at least a dozen battles, neither in Arena nor PVE.Quote:
Originally Posted by HuckFinn150
This seems to be just another bug, the talisman does not seem to activate on FotD.
Anyone else had any success?
Somehow, I'm not surprised lol
You can see some Eyeballs flying around the toon when Paranoia is activated. It does work. But again, relying on visual effects for buffs/debuffs and not supporting the effects with icons or graphic symbols is a bad move. All the innates visual effects are a bad idea.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnricoPalazzo
Is this another case of the effect not showing on lower graphics again?Quote:
Originally Posted by Maiden
I tried it in test arena and it works.
i put it on him and jack all happens
I fought some in arena. It does prevent blocking, yggs were just ignored both times. Works as advertised, as far as I've seen, but it's definitely nothing special. When people start remembering what paranoia cosmic does, meta teams will roll through FotD just like before. It may be useful in some dungeons I suppose.
Tried it again and yes, you're right, this works as advertised.Quote:
Originally Posted by Maiden
Bloody annoying that there's no icon though, the whole innate effect stuff needs icons and also detailed descriptions in the character info (long press on char during battle).
Who can keep track of all this?
And I concur, FotD even with this mildly annoying talisman still is nothing special. WAY better choices of Eddies and Talismans out there...
The whole battle system could do with an optional running on-screen commentary on how things are interacting: scrolling past at the side. At least we can then see what effect is or isn't being considered. Right now, for those things that are visually shown, it's a mess of writing on top of each other.Quote:
Originally Posted by EnricoPalazzo
I've suggested this a year ago, and it got ignored completely.
Hey folks, been rather unwell lately, sorry I didn't get this up in time to be of any use. Figured I'd share it here anyway, so we'll be able to compare the original version with whatever changes next month's patch brings.
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