Game Update - November 22nd 2016 + Brave New World Characters!

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Originally Posted by PsychoEddie

I don't have to do a restart on the app on androids, I just need to click on the options icon and choose EXIT which forfeits the trooper points and sands of time....that gets me out of the loop without closing the app.

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Oh, I didn't think that worked. I'll update the post accordingly; thanks.

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Originally Posted by Hellrider

Is the change of Mobilize skill live ?

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I didn't test it yet though, maybe the text is outdated?

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It is, it looks like we just missed updating the description text in that update. I'll make sure that's corrected for in a later update.

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Originally Posted by konstifik

Sparton, the visual bug with character portraits not showing in the post battle screen seems to affect all characters that was summoned from BNW souls (regardless of if they are new or old characters) and not at all affecting characters pulled from any other kind of souls. Not 100 % sure about this, but it seems very likely. Should help your team find the problem.

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Originally Posted by Kaijester

My second Aces High was summoned from legendary soul during the BNW event, also doesn't show in exp screen. My guess is any character summoned after implementation of BNW character event will not appear in exp screen.

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Actually, I just saw our bug ticket for that get resolved; apparently characters in slots 101-125 (ie the newest ones a lot of long-term players would have) are what are affected by the bug. There's already an app store update waiting to be approved to fix a few other major problems, but we'll have a fix for this issue in the one after that.

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Originally Posted by Eagleknight

[Some great comments about talismans giving HP vs Def/MR]

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It's definitely expected to build a character with at least some HP from talismans (if not a health talisman or two), but I understand where you're coming from.

The intent for building defenses on a character is to find a good balance between adding HP and adding Def/MR, but it sounds like it's hard to get enough Def and MR to compensate for the amount of HP given. I'll make a task for myself to revisit this and do either something along the lines of what you're suggesting (make such talismans more glass cannon-y by giving more Magic than comparable talismans) or improve the Def/MR given on talismans to encourage more of a balance (or more of a reason to push more HP or more Def/MR depending on your opponent/your team comp).

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Originally Posted by Emeldir

This update expand slots for characters to 125. In game is 142 characters now - still very stupid situation for "catch them all" players, but better than none. Is there any hope for expand character slots for example to 200 in part 2 of this update???

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125 character slots is a technical limit we have right now, but the intent is that character inventory (and talisman inventory) will be expanded much more once we're able to fully test the implications of extending it. It's on our list of things we want to solve sooner rather than later, but without diverting too much attention from releasing PVP.

This is a really good update thanks a lot, I got my Storm Eddie today. Oh Sparton looking at your replies, I think PvP or BNW dungeons are near... Can you confirm this? 😁 Looking forward to future updates!

Thanks Sparton, for looking into the skilled/sorcery tailismans. I did find one team that works a complete freeze team with comet. GR, blue cotd, blue masked harpy. Comet and health on cotd and full freeze on harpy. The team works good but fights are long and when you get to a boss your hurting because freeze doesn't stick on most bosses.

Again thanks for looking into it.

Hey guys,

I would like to echo my appreciation for the latest update. I was chomping at the bit hoping for an opportunity to snag meteor and comet! Now to level up tailsmans so I can start playing around with comet too. I notice some people here are frustrated with the new world souls. Personally, I couldn't be happier... I went with two 10 packs thus far to include:

1st set:
Corrupt Rescuer 4*
Undead rescuer 3*
Wicker Golem 3*
^ all assassin
SoL Eddie 3* (magus)
And the rest usual suspects

2nd set:
Rainmaker Eddie 5*
Storm Eddie 3*
Corrupt Harpy 4*
^ all assassin
Soulless Demon 4* (guardian)
And a few other misc...

I dropped $50 on the Black Friday special so I might go for one other 10 pack. I like to budget about $20 / month for my love of the game and all the work the dev team puts into the game. Although there can be some frustration with drops it tends to work itself out in the end. I got a couple doubles on the rarer characters but plenty of new one's as well. It looks like the new world souls have a higher percentage of other rare characters esp assassins. Happy turkey leftovers everyone!

-ill

I wouldn't spent that kind of money for an android game, much better for a PS4 or PC game

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Originally Posted by R1ck

I wouldn't spent that kind of money for an android game, much better for a PS4 or PC game

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Agreed. I HAVE spent money however. I bought the $20 Alexander's Amphora to buy a 10 rare soul pack early on in the game before learning, and got the usual crap. Just the other day I bought the $29.99 legendary soul pack (the one with 3 days remaining). The "legendary" soul was a fucking 4* pyro dupe. Between the remaining rare souls and the full conversions of Ironite to BNW souls, I have scored the Prisoner, Gunner Corrupt Rescuer, and Corrupt Droids, Sentinel and Gunner.

Had I scored a Rare Eddie, I would be satisfied with him and the Rescuer (with the Prisoner rounding things out in rarity, not overall performance). The fact is that I have ONE somewhat/truly rare Eddie from gaming through July and it makes me sick to think of all the L49 players who have long since abandoned this game with Corrupt Generals, Angels of Fear, Samurai, and Vampire Slayers rotting on defunct accounts when I grind daily, even buy and get the shit end of the stick constantly.

Perception =/= reality I am aware, but it seems like half or more posting walked off with FotD and Storm Eddies through these promos, and I'm blowing money and resources like a fool for droids and pumpkins notwithstanding the vague promises of "increased odds." The bottom line is that the mechanics and development of this game pay no allegiance to the loyal nor to those who pay. This is purely a slot machine dressed up as a vs strategy game, and while that gambling element may appeal to some, it is one of the things I truly detest about this game.

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Originally Posted by FlyingV

Perception =/= reality I am aware, but it seems like half or more posting walked off with FotD and Storm Eddies through these promos, and I'm blowing money and resources like a fool for droids and pumpkins notwithstanding the vague promises of "increased odds." The bottom line is that the mechanics and development of this game pay no allegiance to the loyal nor to those who pay. This is purely a slot machine dressed up as a vs strategy game, and while that gambling element may appeal to some, it is one of the things I truly detest about this game.

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I still can't decide whether to spend any Ironite on BNW souls. My RNG history isn't great so I am loathe to the idea of possibly wasting it. I actually had made a decision today to buy a pack of 10 (same on Friday). However I pulled a Rare Soul from secret locations on both days and on opening them gave me useless rubbish that I either already had or wasn't that great. This has made me pause on buying the pack now. In all honesty I am only really wanting to chase Storm Eddie from the new characters. Don't get me wrong I know that I could pull some other great chars but when you keep getting not so great pulls you start to think that you are destined to not have great luck with RNG and to just plod along and hope you can pull the new and the older, better chars somewhere, somehow along the line.

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Originally Posted by PerthEddie

I still can't decide whether to spend any Ironite on BNW souls. My RNG history isn't great so I am loathe to the idea of possibly wasting it. I actually had made a decision today to buy a pack of 10 (same on Friday). However I pulled a Rare Soul from secret locations on both days and on opening them gave me useless rubbish that I either already had or wasn't that great. This has made me pause on buying the pack now. In all honesty I am only really wanting to chase Storm Eddie from the new characters. Don't get me wrong I know that I could pull some other great chars but when you keep getting not so great pulls you start to think that you are destined to not have great luck with RNG and to just plod along and hope you can pull the new and the older, better chars somewhere, somehow along the line.

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I hit this promo with everything I had -admittedly little since the mechanics of this game has crippled me (no reg runes + multiple new L 100 characters = endless ironite for SoT with no rare souls in the game anymore has starved me out of ironite among other things). I blew 13K of badges I saved on rare gun/ass souls, blew the few hundred remaining ironite I had on BNW, and sent off a half dozen rare and 3 stacks of regular souls. Out of all of that, the ONLY promo-germane pull was a warrior Corrupt Droid from a regular soul stack, no less.

When I spent $30 I got a legendary soul, some rares and ironite. The legendary was an insult that the upcoming sacrifice had better remedy. The packaged rare souls plus the BNW I spent all the ironite from the deal yielded one very good (Maybe the best) toon and two of the most lackluster. Granted, none of this information is new as opposed to my last post, but here is the point as it relates to you.

BNW soul drops are no guarantee that you will get anything from BNW, much less anything good from BNW. The problem here is the disservice done to us being that Storm is a G/A class. FotD Eddie allowed you to pull via 1,250 badge Sentinel souls. It costs 3X that for one Assassin soul and those drops are very dismal in my experience for rare characters. Thus, BNW souls offer you a bad chance of getting Storm for a high price, whereas G/A souls offer you a terrible chance of getting Storm at an absurd price.

Frankly, I am beginning to rethink promos given the RNG. It seems many pulled FotD after the Halloween promo... even during this one. What that suggests is there is little reason to get excited until they change the RNG, as unlikely as the odds are, I seem similarly as likely to stumble on the character randomly some other time as I am during the promo.

So if you MUST have Storm, BNW souls give you the (somewhat) less-costly advantage of "probably not getting him" over the alternatives.

EDIT: just to prove my point, I tossed the meagre scrapings of my ironite into one BNW soul just now and got the Bruce RTTH "Yaaaaaaaaaaa!" Scream.

Gunner Cotd.

Great pull for a rare soul, but nothing to do with BNW, and not so great for the player with one or the one dying for storm (And inexcusably, it's a MUCH better pull than the legandary soul pull that I paid for with $).

Sparton, I just wanted to let you know that with this last small update, consuming marks is working as intended :D Thanks a lot \m/

Cool update, but the constant crashing makes it unplayable. It's near impossible to play a level that doesn't lock up.

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Originally Posted by shaunvis

Cool update, but the constant crashing makes it unplayable. It's near impossible to play a level that doesn't lock up.

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Are you using characters that have a reflect shield such as red Troll or blue Allied Soldier? If yes, then I would avoid them until they get this issue fixed.

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Originally Posted by Ringe666-7406

Sparton, I just wanted to let you know that with this last small update, consuming marks is working as intended :D Thanks a lot \m/

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Good to know; thanks for chiming in!

If you have Android, there is that Google Play store update that became available within the last 24 hours, which fixes the mark thing and the combat hang that happens with certain kinds of shields. The corresponding update for iOS is still waiting for review, but we hope will be approved and become available some time within the next few days for that platform.

Just a heads up, the SIEGE passive seems to be somewhat bugged right now. Previously it would remove 1 turn from buffs on the enemy per character with that passive, per round. Right now it's taking off way more than that for some odd reason. You'll really notice it with a buff heavy team playing on Circle of Fire / Underworld / madness. I'm using Alliance General, Soldier Eddie, and Angel of Pain, and you'll almost always lose 4 rounds worth of buffs on the enemy turn vs. the blue angels, even if one is dead.

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Originally Posted by Reeb99

Just a heads up, the SIEGE passive seems to be somewhat bugged right now. Previously it would remove 1 turn from buffs on the enemy per character with that passive, per round. Right now it's taking off way more than that for some odd reason.

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Noted. I'll pass that along to investigate.

Sparton

Long time reader, first time asking... Is there still in the short term or long term plans to have an exclusive Eddie through trooper points update? Thought I read that mentioned before.

Something seems to be wrong with my Tailgunner Eddie dmg. Whether Alliance General Power Ability buffed or not, barrage is dealing 4000+dmg?

Critical Strike worked for my allies but not on Eddie?

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Originally Posted by Kaijester

Something seems to be wrong with my Tailgunner Eddie dmg. Whether Alliance General Power Ability buffed or not, barrage is dealing 4000+dmg?

Critical Strike worked for my allies but not on Eddie?

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Not something to do with the trooper bug, but maybe in reverse? Does it do the same after a force close?

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Originally Posted by Kaijester

Something seems to be wrong with my Tailgunner Eddie dmg. Whether Alliance General Power Ability buffed or not, barrage is dealing 4000+dmg?

Critical Strike worked for my allies but not on Eddie?

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Working normally here - ATK buff and critical strikes with Barrage using the Generals Power

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

Good to know; thanks for chiming in!

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NP, we are all together here :D Although for the second I thought that red soulless demon's attack skill didn't consume it... I mean, I am certain... But on the rest of my chars it's working... Maybe it just wasn't shown, like damage for CG's Fury... Icon was moved after attack...By the way, is Wicker Man's basic attack supposed to do one round of damage to all enemies except to the one on whom the target circle is at the moment? That one gets two round of damage... Seems a little odd to me :) Thanks a lot :D \m/

I was excited to use the new Sentinel Undead Rescuer as he can block beneficial effects. Tried him on the Prisoner in Underworld Madness. Got to the second level with the Trolls and he successfully blocked all of them. Cranked up the Generals buff, released Eddie's Fury and BAM - my team is hit for a boatload of damage from the Reflect Shield!

Is the Trolls Reflect Shield not a beneficial effect? It's in blue so assumed it was. Or does this only block the summoning of additional beneficial effects while leaving those already there in place? Thinking that must be the case...

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Originally Posted by Ringe666-7406

By the way, is Wicker Man's basic attack supposed to do one round of damage to all enemies except to the one on whom the target circle is at the moment? That one gets two round of damage... Seems a little odd to me :) Thanks a lot :D \m/

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I asked this in the Wickerman thread. Yes, that's how it works. Main target takes a good solid hit, and the other enemies take a "splash" of damage

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Originally Posted by Nifelheim

Is there still in the short term or long term plans to have an exclusive Eddie through trooper points update? Thought I read that mentioned before.

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Kaz is spearheading the design for that, and while I don't have a timeline, that is being worked on. Trooper points (and an equivalent currency from participating in PVP) will help to get different feature-exclusive Eddies and other characters.

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Originally Posted by Kaijester

Something seems to be wrong with my Tailgunner Eddie dmg. Whether Alliance General Power Ability buffed or not, barrage is dealing 4000+dmg?

Critical Strike worked for my allies but not on Eddie?

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Not sure what's up with that (unless it's critical strike chance is now actually a chance with a recent update), but I'll pass that along to get investigated.

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Originally Posted by Ringe666-7406

By the way, is Wicker Man's basic attack supposed to do one round of damage to all enemies except to the one on whom the target circle is at the moment? That one gets two round of damage... Seems a little odd to me :) Thanks a lot :D \m/

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I'll double check with Kaz, as I'm not sure what the intent is there. I know there's quite a few characters that should be doing multiple hits which aren't clearly specified (or do differing amounts than what they were designed for), but I don't know what category The Wicker Man falls under for that.

Is Imp King just Imp?

Troll is still bugged 1 week after the update. I can't autofarm Game of Death with him because it's simply wasting Sand of Time in infinite "Miss" loop.

When is this gonna be fixed?

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Originally Posted by Kamuz24z

Alliance general doesn't steal power ...

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... same to me. Since the update the Alliance General further steal the energy, but the stolen energy isn't subtracted from the enemy! In the Dungeons, especially Assassin LOL X, the boss-fight can get close because of the non reduced energy and its hard hit.

Is this a bug or a feature? ;) If it's a bug, will this be adjusted in one of the next updates?

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Originally Posted by Kaijester

Is Imp King just Imp?

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Oh, yeah, we're just talking about the Warrior-class Imp there. It looks like internally it had a different name when it was created, and at some point it was simplified down and we missed noting that when calling out the tuning adjustment.

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Originally Posted by IceeeDz

Troll is still bugged 1 week after the update. I can't autofarm Game of Death with him because it's simply wasting Sand of Time in infinite "Miss" loop.

When is this gonna be fixed?

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It's already fixed on Android if you grab the new update on Google Play. We submitted the update to iOS last week and still haven't been approved as far as I know, so there's nothing further we can do other than wait for it to get through their approval process. Everything's starting to slow down for the holiday season, I suppose.

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Originally Posted by GTR

... same to me. Since the update the Alliance General further steal the energy, but the stolen energy isn't subtracted from the enemy! In the Dungeons, especially Assassin LOL X, the boss-fight can get close because of the non reduced energy and its hard hit.

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This has actually been a bug for a while if I'm not mistaken (same thing as the Energy Talismans). The intent is to fix it to do what it claims do to, but I don't know the timeline for that fix. The plan is to crush as many combat-related bugs as we can as we approach the release of PVP, though.

Hey Sparton, do you have an ETA on when the rest of the Brave New World release might be released? Thanks.

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

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Originally Posted by GTR

... same to me. Since the update the Alliance General further steal the energy, but the stolen energy isn't subtracted from the enemy!

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This has actually been a bug for a while if I'm not mistaken (same thing as the Energy Talismans). The intent is to fix it to do what it claims do to, but I don't know the timeline for that fix. The plan is to crush as many combat-related bugs as we can as we approach the release of PVP, though.

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Interesting. I just noticed my AG definitely did drain the enemy's fury meter on his basic attack.

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Originally Posted by Arcturus

Interesting. I just noticed my AG definitely did drain the enemy's fury meter on his basic attack.

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Fury and energy are different things ;)

@ Sparton: Thanks for the information.

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Or does this only block the summoning of additional beneficial effects while leaving those already there in place? Thinking that must be the case...

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Yes, that is most probably the answer to your question. There exist two types of this skill: "removes" (see CR Eddies fury skill) and "blocks". so this one only prevents the enemy from acquiring new beneficial effects.

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

It's already fixed on Android if you grab the new update on Google Play. We submitted the update to iOS last week and still haven't been approved as far as I know, so there's nothing further we can do other than wait for it to get through their approval process. Everything's starting to slow down for the holiday season, I suppose.

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Thanks for answering! I'm on Android. Just opened Google Play here and my game is updated and I still got a bug. I'll try to autofarm once again with Troll.

I'd appreciate if someone else could confirm if the bug is fixed and can autofarm without a problem.

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Originally Posted by BillLion

Hey Sparton, do you have an ETA on when the rest of the Brave New World release might be released? Thanks.

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We do not, no. Getting the Brave New World dungeons to all players and getting PVP out to all players is our two major priorities, and we have different people on the team dedicated to each (with some additional programmers having been hired to either help with one of those or to focus on other things so existing team members can focus as much as possible on their feature). I'm still not sure which of those will come out first, but they are coming.

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Well, that was easy. First try and I got bugged. I have 2 other screenshots from previous bugs.

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Am I the only one?

Edit: Removed the pictures to not polute the thread.

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

We do not, no. Getting the Brave New World dungeons to all players and getting PVP out to all players is our two major priorities, and we have different people on the team dedicated to each (with some additional programmers having been hired to either help with one of those or to focus on other things so existing team members can focus as much as possible on their feature). I'm still not sure which of those will come out first, but they are coming.

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I appreciate the reply. Eager for new content! :)

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Originally Posted by IceeeDz

Well, that was easy. First try and I got bugged. I have 2 other screenshots from previous bugs.


Am I the only one?

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Nothing happened here, since the game was updated via PlayStore...

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Originally Posted by IceeeDz

Am I the only one?

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Hi IceeeDz :)

Well... It happened to me as well, yet yesterday downloaded the update directly from Google Play Store and the problem seems to be gone (at least for now)... I've tried my own troll and couple of my friends ones - both on manual and auto play and game not crashing anymore now...

Cheers,

W

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Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB

We do not, no. Getting the Brave New World dungeons to all players and getting PVP out to all players is our two major priorities, and we have different people on the team dedicated to each (with some additional programmers having been hired to either help with one of those or to focus on other things so existing team members can focus as much as possible on their feature). I'm still not sure which of those will come out first, but they are coming.

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hey sparton, thanks for the constant information. it would be nice if the xp-runes could be tuned in the meanwhile, since it sounds that it could take some more time till new content is released...
the runes are a huge bottleneck atm as many people stated before. maybe you can do something about it, this would be great.

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Originally Posted by slauki

hey sparton, thanks for the constant information. it would be nice if the xp-runes could be tuned in the meanwhile, since it sounds that it could take some more time till new content is released...
the runes are a huge bottleneck atm as many people stated before. maybe you can do something about it, this would be great.

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Hi Slauki :)

I doubt if the devs will fix this soon (I wish I'd wrong) - they HAD couple chances already - I guess they don't recognize the problem as THAT important and this is highly unlikely that would missed all the posts asking them to do this... I guess it's on purpose... my theory is that they simply want us play even more and more with this awful drop rates, using the LOT of ironities to refills the sands of time, and then buy a lot of ironities with money to do it again and again...

Cheers,

W

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Originally Posted by Witkacy

Hi Slauki :)

I doubt if the devs will fix this soon (I wish I'd wrong) - they HAD couple chances already - I guess they don't recognize the problem as THAT important and this is highly unlikely that would missed all the posts asking them to do this... I guess it's on purpose... my theory is that they simply want us play even more and more with this awful drop rates, using the LOT of ironities to refills the sands of time, and then buy a lot of ironities with money to do it again and again...

Cheers,

W

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I am going to stay positive and cut the devs a break on this one (I feel like I owe them one when I made a rash post without confirmation earlier).

Even though this issue has bankrupted my resources and dramatically altered my play these past few weeks for the worse, I am going to remain hopeful that the Brave New World dungeons encapsulate this issue and working to bring this online is effectively addressing the xp rune issue.

If I am right, the only thing that I would have appreciated would be a heads up/confirmation. If I'm wrong... well, that's why I am trying to be patient on this one because the issue might get ugly with people.

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Originally Posted by Witkacy

Hi IceeeDz :)

Well... It happened to me as well, yet yesterday downloaded the update directly from Google Play Store and the problem seems to be gone (at least for now)... I've tried my own troll and couple of my friends ones - both on manual and auto play and game not crashing anymore now...

Cheers,

W

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Since there was no update for me, I reinstalled the game. So far, no crashes! Sorry for relating an already fixed problem.