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    Quote Originally Posted by GotN View Post
    I think the odds ARE even. Once we get a sentinel or gunner (what obviously most of us did) or no matter what kind of Lilith, we get her again and again and again. What kind of shit (sorry, but don’t have any other word for that) is this, you have a 80 % chance to get a char and you get a f...g dupe? That’s no randomness at all and just a gigantic fraud!
    Agree 100%.

    2 dupes so far from the "events".


    Random is definitly not random here.

    One of the dev clowns here will maybe say it's perceptual disturbance. BS.


    It is the same with the "not existing" defense bonus.

    If someone would see the source code, I am pretty sure, that those nodding frauders would be in big trouble.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Liebhild View Post
    Agree 100%.

    2 dupes so far from the "events".


    Random is definitly not random here.

    One of the dev clowns here will maybe say it's perceptual disturbance. BS.


    It is the same with the "not existing" defense bonus.

    If someone would see the source code, I am pretty sure, that those nodding frauders would be in big trouble.
    all loots are a fraud in that game and in part not random it is totally tested since a long time
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    2 gold and 2 blue now from the beginning and 1 red paid good rng ^^
    4 open = 2 toons on 5 what a bad "chance" loool
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    Quote Originally Posted by Liebhild View Post

    It is the same with the "not existing" defense bonus.
    I'm convinced the AI defense gets a 15-20% accuracy boost. It may not be a "stat" boost or "damage" boost.. but it's absolutely an accuracy boost. That's why all things fire more often.. echo, strike, revenge, buff stealing, etc.

    That 35% for echo to fire is actually closer to 50% for the AI.....

    So if you have a character with a 75% chance to steal buffs (full skill shards).. like WUR or S Mayan or AG... that 75% is much closer to 90% or 95% for the AI.. which explains why they practically NEVER fail.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Yup View Post
    I'm convinced the AI defense gets a 15-20% accuracy boost. It may not be a "stat" boost or "damage" boost.. but it's absolutely an accuracy boost. That's why all things fire more often.. echo, strike, revenge, buff stealing, etc.

    That 35% for echo to fire is actually closer to 50% for the AI.....
    it is proved too
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    So far for me Event 1 = 400 Lilith frags only
    Event 2 = 1 x Sentinel Lilith + 1 x Warrior Lilith + 10 frags, Gunner purchased after event
    Event 3 = 1 x Gunner Lilith + 1 x Sentinel Lilith

    I'm currently having my last crack at farming, I have started with 155 Lilith frags and 175 Gemini frags.
    228 sot to start with (playing Lord of Light L7) got me 45 Lilith and 70 Gemini frags.

    228/7=32 attempts = 9% of a Lilith and 35% of a Gemini
    Not including "in game generated sot" or frags already collected that would mean:
    The average frag collection per game (irrespective of collecting frags or not) is 0.28% for Lilith and roughly 1.1% for Gemini

    There is no hard fixed rule where RNG is applied of course but that works out at 357 attempts to get a full Lilith soul starting from nothing.
    That's close enough to 2500 sot or 937 ironite (based on my last experience)
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    I won't bore you all with more maths, but based on my progress since the last post the 0.28 stays true for Lilith frags over 1.5 x the sot spent.
    I suppose it bares mentioning that
    a.We are playing a game that's meant to be fun and pass the time.
    B. We are collecting many normal souls and a few rare souls.
    C. We are collecting evo shards, gold etc...
    D. We're also collecting Gemini souls and frags all of which can be traded in and get you further round the vortex or saved for future events.
    So no doubt NF are the winners, after all it's a business at the end of the day but the users don't do too badly...
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    Okay, I'm done with this event.

    Updated:

    Event 1 [Gunner, Assassin, Assassin, Gunner, Gunner]
    Event 2 [Gunner, Magus, Gunner, Sentinel ]
    Frontier coin Purchase of Warrior...
    Event 3 (Gemini) [ Gunner, Warrior, Assassin ]

    That's 10 Liliths before the Warrior showed in a drop from fragments, at the 11th soul.

    Lilith fragment drops were definitely less beneficial in the Gemini event. I ran hard all 3 days.. barely made 1500 Lilith fragments when I easily made 1500 in only 2 days with the previous events.
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    Same here Yup, I just scraped through 3 x Liliths this event, Gunner/Sentinel/Gunner all dupes...
    300 frontier coins the only good thing besides the enormous turn over of rare souls and all but one the rest were dupes..
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    I don't expect any new Lilith from the souls, I only play for the Frontier Coins.
    RNG is not random.
    Also, my new personal best:
    dropped a bunch of 38 /thirty-eight) rares all at once without red eyes. 38 3* in a row, not even a single 4* dupe!
    If I had done them one by one, I think I'd have erased the game in frustration around soul 25...

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