I use POM Eddie fury and get ok results with this, can't wait for the Kamuz 100% trick to be revealed. I don't have these, wanted to buy but by the time PayPal transfer happened they were gone. Don't have Valor or Fate either, hope these will all be available through playable rewards instead of real cash or the even more valuable iron coin. I wonder if anyone buys any Fate talismans, or anything else other than Relics with ic? I am scrambling to stay afloat with the arms race along side those who had a bank of ic when Relics were introduced. Slauki said he had 35k? All the top arena players must have accumulated massive head start on this endeavor vs up and comers arriving late to the party!