I also think there’s something going on. I have won battles against your team Yup, and against the top 5 (except you, damn shaolinlondo ) and pretty much everyone in the top 100, and I’m not saying I have a great win rate, (it’s arround 78/85% in attack and 30/35% in defense while being in the top 100), but my highest relic is at lvl 4, mostly are lvl 2 and two or three at lvl 3. That makes no sense for me, even through I’m confident I have great characters on my team and a pretty good and creative talisman setup. Players with more leveled relics should be kicking the ass of players like me. For me, the relic system is not fair and promoves the unbalance of the game in PvP, but given the fact of the relics being a real thing (and expensive, and hard to get), it is also not fair for the game to be working in that way. In another topic I would also say that magus Lilith has also made the arena boring and sometimes unplayable, because of the Destiny talisman set, (and I do have both of them, but I’m not using them), almost every player in the top 100 have M Lilith, the prisoner, and Iron Eddie or Doomsday Eddie (not talking about you, Yup). When every team is a copy of the last one, the game becomes very boring.