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    Gates of Dawn (Dungeon) - The Ferryman + Limited Ed. Shadow Wicker Man Eddie Debut!

    Shadow Wicker Man Eddie and The Ferryman are making their Legacy of the Beast debut in a limited-time Dungeon!

    From now until February 3rd at 4PM PT, battle in a limited time Dungeon and complete event challenges for Wicker Man Eddie Soul Fragments and new Talismans!

    Venture into the Gates of Dawn dungeon and conquer crazed cultists! The first time you complete one of the 3 floors available, you will be granted with set rewards including Shadow Souls and Titan Talismans. All subsequent victories are guaranteed to provide Wicker Man Eddie Soul Fragments, as well as a chance of up to 2 bonus rewards, including Oracle Talismans.

    Wicker Man Eddie fragments can be used in two different ways!

    Use 400 Wicker Man Eddie Fragments to claim a Wicker Man Soul. The Wicker Man Soul is guaranteed to grant a 4★ Magus Wicker Man Eddie, a perfect addition if you ever accidently sacrificed this character!
    Wicker Man Eddie Fragments can be used in the Special Store on limited time items such as Heroic Legendary Souls, Blood and Ancient Mariner Fragments, and the all new SHADOW SOUL!

    The Shadow Soul is a limited time event soul which guarantees a 3★ to 5★ character of any class, with an an exclusive chance of getting The Ferryman and Shadow Wicker Man Eddie - a limited edition, fully skill sharded version of Wicker Man Eddie!

    The Ferryman (5★ Magus): A devastating mage that cannot take damage from regular attacks! The Ferryman can only be damaged by Burns and damage over time effects and instead drains his own life by a small percentage each turn. He is capable of dooming all enemies with basic attack and removing Endure and Immortality effects, while granting magic charge and extra turns to his allies with his power skill.

    Shadow Wicker Man Eddie (4★ Magus): This limited edition version of Wicker Man Eddie comes fully skill sharded and armed with the The Kindling passive, replacing the regular Wicker Man Eddie’s fury attack. This ability grants Immunity to Burn Effects to all allies, and has a 35% Chance to inflict a random burn effect on all enemies when you take damage. It will also heal all allies at the start of your turn based on the number of burn effects on each enemy!

    The Ferryman and Shadow Wicker Man Eddie are ONLY available in the Shadow Soul.

    Check out more on Shadow Wicker Man Eddie in his Character Discussions forum post.

    Each Shadow Soul summoned will also grant bonus rewards of 10 Ferryman Fragments, and 10 Shadow Wicker Man Soul Fragments.

    Collecting 750 Ferryman Soul Fragments guarantees The Ferryman, whereas 350 Shadow Wicker Man Soul Fragments guarantees the limited edition Shadow Wicker Man Eddie.

    Event Bonus: Complete event challenges to earn a variety of rewards, including Shadow Soul Fragments and a full set of Hex Talismans!

    Hex Talismans are purple talismans with a 3 set effect that is not available anywhere else! Equip them to gain immunity to Max HP Reduction Effects. These Talismans also Heal for 5% of your Max HP every turn and grant a 50% Chance to increase the duration of Negative Effects on each target by 1 every turn.

    Finally, we have a few deals available in the store to help with gearing up Shadow Wicker Man Eddie and The Ferryman:
    • We have 2 Power up deals on offer! These packs provide Ironite, a bit of gold, 5★ XP Shards to power up a new Ferryman or Shadow Wicker Man Eddie! The Shadow Wicker Man Power Up Deal ALSO contains 100 Frontier Coins and 3★ Colourless Evo Shards!
    • Grab an additional boost of Wicker Man Eddie Soul Fragments to trade for more items in the Specials Store. This Fragment Mega Pack also contains Ancient Mariner Fragments, Frontier Coins, Ironite and more!
    • If you find yourself unable to complete the Oracle talisman set, you can buy two of the featured talisman for Ironite (i.e. the 500 Ironite pack will grant you 2x Oracle Talismans).

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    Yeah so Shadow souls still are not available in the store for Wickerman fragments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amarthir View Post
    Yeah so Shadow souls still are not available in the store for Wickerman fragments.
    They are for me now. Scroll to the far left. The Shadow Souls and Soul Packs are now for fragments and not Ironite.

    Devs - will Shadow Souls be obtainable with Ironite directly?
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    Quote Originally Posted by druid138 View Post
    They are for me now. Scroll to the far left. The Shadow Souls and Soul Packs are now for fragments and not Ironite.

    Devs - will Shadow Souls be obtainable with Ironite directly?
    Ah, correct I hadn't noticed that.

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    I haven't done the math yet, but if Shadow Souls are only obtainable via event challenges and wicker man frags, it could be tough to get the 75 needed to guarantee The Ferryman before the event ends.
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    Quote Originally Posted by druid138 View Post
    I haven't done the math yet, but if Shadow Souls are only obtainable via event challenges and wicker man frags, it could be tough to get the 75 needed to guarantee The Ferryman before the event ends.
    I hope someone can correct me on this.

    75 Shadow Souls needed to guarantee The Ferryman
    16 Shadow Souls from event challenges / achievements
    59 Shadow Souls needed from the Store

    Currently, they don't appear in the Store for Ironite, only for Wickerman Fragments.

    You would essentially need to buy 6 of the 10-packs, costing a total of 15,000 Wickerman fragments. I'll do the math later on how many Madness runs and SoT refills that would take, but it's a ton. I'm hoping there will be a for-Ironite option as well.

    Can we do a little tracking on the Wickerman fragment drops? I'll count my refills and watch my fragments, but it'd be awesome if a few others could do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by druid138 View Post
    I haven't done the math yet, but if Shadow Souls are only obtainable via event challenges and wicker man frags, it could be tough to get the 75 needed to guarantee The Ferryman before the event ends.
    Ok, so a raw math without taking into account the ironite we get from each dungeon run on madness looks somewhat like this:
    Note: this is based on just 1 mega SOT refill and I was farming on madnessmode.


    Total ferryman Frags needed: 750
    Free Frags from achievements: ~ 200 (16 souls from achievements and first completion gives some for each mode)
    Missing frags needed: 550 = 55 shadow souls
    55 shadow souls from store = ~14000 wicker man fragments (10 souls @ 2500 frags)
    Frags earned with 1 mega refil: 500
    No of runs with 1 mega refill: ~50
    Mega refills needed: 500 frags @ 1 mega refil for 14000 frags = 28 mega refils
    Ironite required: 28 * 150 = 4200 ironite
    Time to earn those frags: 1:30 secs each run * 1400 = 35 hours (40 hours if you include loading screens etc.)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffen View Post
    Ok, so a raw math without taking into account the ironite we get from each dungeon run on madness looks somewhat like this:
    Note: this is based on just 1 mega SOT refill and I was farming on madnessmode.


    Total ferryman Frags needed: 750
    Free Frags from achievements: ~ 200 (16 souls from achievements and first completion gives some for each mode)
    Missing frags needed: 550 = 55 shadow souls
    55 shadow souls from store = ~14000 wicker man fragments (10 souls @ 2500 frags)
    Frags earned with 1 mega refil: 500
    No of runs with 1 mega refill: ~50
    Mega refills needed: 500 frags @ 1 mega refil for 14000 frags = 28 mega refils
    Ironite required: 28 * 150 = 4200 ironite
    Time to earn those frags: 1:30 secs each run * 1400 = 35 hours (40 hours if you include loading screens etc.)
    Yeah, this is kind of crazy - it’s basically selling them for Ironite but making it a pain in the process - though this IS a game - so tough to complain about a reward based on playing

    At the same time, it’s potentially not QUITE as bad as your calculation.

    I’m using DDE, Killer Prime, (Both with Fate), Gunner Banshee, and Musashi (Primordial). Both Musashi and Banshee remove that pesky Invincibility from Shadow WME and this team finishes consistently under a minute. Best time is 31 seconds.

    I’ve also seen a number of 18 frag drops. They’re not common, but at least they’ll make a small dent in the number of runs needed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nicko View Post
    Yeah, this is kind of crazy - it’s basically selling them for Ironite but making it a pain in the process - though this IS a game - so tough to complain about a reward based on playing

    At the same time, it’s potentially not QUITE as bad as your calculation.

    I’m using DDE, Killer Prime, (Both with Fate), Gunner Banshee, and Musashi (Primordial). Both Musashi and Banshee remove that pesky Invincibility from Shadow WME and this team finishes consistently under a minute. Best time is 31 seconds.

    I’ve also seen a number of 18 frag drops. They’re not common, but at least they’ll make a small dent in the number of runs needed.

    I agree, my calculations are not quite accurate. But I just want to give a rough projection of what it may look like.
    As for as ironite, taking ironite returns from farming and free SOT over the span of 6 days, my guess is the average ironite required to unlock ferryman would be somewhere around 3000 ironite.

    But the average time spend farming the dungeon, I still think it’s close to 35 hours.
    It may be slightly less for you depending on your relics and the team setup. But most players can’t finish a run in less than a minute due to lack of relics, toons and talismans.

    But whatever it may end up being, ferryman is worth every last ironite spent. At least until they nerf them.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Waffen View Post
    Ok, so a raw math without taking into account the ironite we get from each dungeon run on madness looks somewhat like this:
    Note: this is based on just 1 mega SOT refill and I was farming on madnessmode.


    Total ferryman Frags needed: 750
    Free Frags from achievements: ~ 200 (16 souls from achievements and first completion gives some for each mode)
    Missing frags needed: 550 = 55 shadow souls
    55 shadow souls from store = ~14000 wicker man fragments (10 souls @ 2500 frags)
    Frags earned with 1 mega refil: 500
    No of runs with 1 mega refill: ~50
    Mega refills needed: 500 frags @ 1 mega refil for 14000 frags = 28 mega refils
    Ironite required: 28 * 150 = 4200 ironite
    Time to earn those frags: 1:30 secs each run * 1400 = 35 hours (40 hours if you include loading screens etc.)
    Good math, amigo! I'm coming to a pretty similar conclusion. Over a large number of runs, it seems that one SoT refill will give you 9 runs (that includes the SoT it returns) and 100 fragments. This is based on Madness.

    I believe we need to buy 59 Souls - we get 6 from passing the 3 dungeon difficulties the first time, and we get 10 from event challenges.

    So, we need 6x 10-packs at 2,500 frags each. Or, 15,000 fragments total.

    That means 150 SoT refills and 1,350 runs. Ignoring free SoT, you'll spend 4,500 Ironite on refills (though you'll get a chunk back in drops - plus all the other loot). The part that is really tough in my opinion is that each SoT refill takes about 20 minutes for me, translating to about 50 hours of farming over the next 6 days. That's in addition to any Arena, Gauntlet, SQs, etc. I need to find a way to quit my job but keep my income . . .

    Also, that doesn't include any extra dungeon farming for frags to use on Ancient Mariner, etc.
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