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    I haven't posted any cosmic talisman stats here for some time so I probably have quite a few to add. I don't want to double post so I will just base it off your file Bort so if I post it its because I didn't see it in there.

    Purple T1 HP+15%
    level 20 - HP 5941 Magic 595 MR 403

    Purple T2 ATK +15%
    level 10 - HP 2656 ATK 263 MR 248

    Purple T3 ATK +15%
    Level 30 - HP 16473 ATK 2425 MR 1695

    Blue T1 Magic +15%
    Level 10 - Hp 1640 Magic 188 Mr 81

    Purple T2 - Def +15%
    Level 10 - ATK 273 Def 207 Special 154

    White T3 - Def +15%
    Level 10 - HP 2665 Def 157 Magic 281

    Yellow T1 - MR +15%
    Level 10 - HP 2231 Magic 251 MR 171

    Yellow T1 - Special +25%
    Level 10 - HP 2441 Magic 290 Special 130

    Blue T2 - Special +25%
    Level 1 - Atk 58 Def 39 Special 38

    Yellow T1 - ATK, Magic, Def and HP +15%
    Level 30 - HP 11110 ATK 1487 Magic 1388

    Purple T2 - Immunity
    Level 10 - Hp 2440 ATK 331 Magic 224

    Purple T2 - Burn
    Level 20 - HP 7770 Atk 820 Def 759

    Yellow T3 - Void
    Level 30 - Hp 19709 Def 1821 Mr 1805

    White T1 - Death Mark
    Level 1 - Hp 563 Def 15 Mr 19

    Purple T1 - Chance
    Level 10 - Hp 2003 Atk 157 Special 95

    Blue T2 - Chance
    Level 10 - HP 2288 Def 192 MR 165

    Purple T2 - Chance
    Level 10 - HP 2471 Def 203 Mr 200

    White T1 - Immortality
    Level 10 - HP 1504 Def 92 Special 46

    Purple T1 - Vampiric
    Level 10 - Atk 199 Def 115 Mr 118

    Purple T1 - Fate
    Level 10 - Magic 158 Mr 138 Special 73

    Purple T2 - Void
    Level 30 - Hp 13550 Def 1353 Mr 1090

    Yellow T2 - ATK, Magic, Def, Hp +5%
    Level 30 - Hp 15636 Atk 2070 Magic 1549

    White T2 - HP +15%
    Level 1 - HP 544 Magic 40 MR 29

    Purple T2 - ATK x Magic
    Level 20 - ATk 911 Magic 875 Special 574


    Def think its time I start selling all whites outside T3s. Probably Blue T1s too unless they have some rare effect. Talisman inventory management SHOULD be a high priority but seems theres nothing on the horizon to fix the clutter...
    With cosmics maybe they can add a small icon (a much smaller version of what the original talismans use like strength, health, etc?) on the talisman image that denotes what effect it is.
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    I've made a spreadsheet to manually manage my cosmic talismans.

    Stupid question (maybe?) but is the lowest "color level" of a T2 always higher quality than the highest "color level" of a T1? etc.

    Example, these two:
    purple t1, level 10 fate effect, mag 158 mr 138 spec 73
    white t2, level 10 fate effect, mag 175 mr 118 spec 115

    Is this white T2 "3 levels higher" than the purple T1 ?? There's only 39 points of difference.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ydex View Post
    I've made a spreadsheet to manually manage my cosmic talismans.

    Stupid question (maybe?) but is the lowest "color level" of a T2 always higher quality than the highest "color level" of a T1? etc.

    Example, these two:
    purple t1, level 10 fate effect, mag 158 mr 138 spec 73
    white t2, level 10 fate effect, mag 175 mr 118 spec 115

    Is this white T2 "3 levels higher" than the purple T1 ?? There's only 39 points of difference.
    Why don't you check out this sheet - there are quite a few filled in values for you to compare.

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    More of a general question though.

    Is a better color lower tier designed to be worse than a lower color higher tier, or do they overlap?
    The system is confusing as hell.


    Spreadsheet indicates that HP on a Red T1 can be anywhere from 1/6 of a Blue T2, to TWICE AS MUCH as a Blue T2.
    I'm having another one of those "uninstall this app and throw my phone in a lake" moments.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ydex View Post
    More of a general question though.

    Is a better color lower tier designed to be worse than a lower color higher tier, or do they overlap?
    The system is confusing as hell.


    Spreadsheet indicates that HP on a Red T1 can be anywhere from 1/6 of a Blue T2, to TWICE AS MUCH as a Blue T2.
    I'm hoping that we can fill in enough values in that linked sheet to pull up some reliable metrics to determine the answer to questions like those.

    Though, which talismen were you looking at? Was it the same talisman and level, just Red T1 vs Blue T2?

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    There is no definitive answer to your question. Basically a yellow and red is better than a purple which are better than either blue or white if the abilities are the same. HP varies in the same color and T level depending on the abilities, same as sub types of normal talisman are different.
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    What a total POS system. I can't even identify which ones I should delete.
    I'm having another one of those "uninstall this app and throw my phone in a lake" moments.

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    How do you determine if you want a socercry, arcane or power blue talisman? Use the same type of criteria to determine which cosmic you want to upgrade. Typically you would prefer red, yellow and purple with good augements. Then T3 over T2 over T1, but that depends on your cosmic evolve material.
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    Yeah, so is a White T2 better than a Red T1 ?? If not, at what point do the tiers overlap?
    I'm having another one of those "uninstall this app and throw my phone in a lake" moments.

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    In terms of better what are you asking? It will depend on the abilities you want and for what type of toon you want to place him on.

    If you are scaling off of MR you want a talisman with the highest starting MR stat.

    If you look at the spreadsheet you will see what starting stats for a given talisman and what it will yield when maxed.

    Do you have any specific stat or set of stats you are interested in? You may not need high HP for blue lilith were magic would complement the other talisman.

    What are you really asking? There are many good cosmics, you just need the correct one for the situation you need to use it for.
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