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    Senior Member HeadOnFire's Avatar
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    Need help with Hell and Fire madness

    What teams have people been using for this level? So far I haven't even gotten past the first wave.
    Teams I've tried so far:

    -Hallowed/Breeg/Clansman Eddie

    and various combinations of:
    -The Alchemist
    -The Prisoner
    -The Clairvoyant
    -Magus Lilith
    -Assassin Banshee
    -Angel of Mercy

    I think I even tried the Iron Eddie/purple demon spawn/Prisoner tactic to automatically crave/stun everything, and even that somehow ended up backfiring on me.
    Last edited by HeadOnFire; 03-20-2019 at 03:26 AM.
    Where I go, I do not know
    I only know the place I've been
    Like the eagle and the dove, flying so high on wings above
    When all you see can only bring you sadness
    Tell me what you can hear and then tell me what you see
    Everybody has a different way to view the world
    Somewhere there's someone dying in a foreign land
    Meanwhile the world is crying, "stupidity of man!"
    You tell me you're an unbeliever
    Spiritualist?
    Well me, I'm neither

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    Senior Member Esquatcho's Avatar
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    In the main thread there are quite a few ideas. Most involve a blocker, so Magus Lilith would be key. Anyway, I wanted a summary as I still have to give madness a crack (am still working on sac event), so have copy/pasted below.

    R1ck
    Alexander - Tower/Dominance
    Killer Prime Immunity/sustaining/warlord
    The beast cyclone-present (only because had them free) (or maybe void?)
    M. Lilith fortune/sustaining

    bort
    Alexander Eddie (domination, present)
    assassin hell raiser (mark, ruin, cosmic)
    magus Lilith (fortune, sustaining)
    killer prime (shadow, sustaining)

    Banished
    Alexander Eddie (dominance, heal)
    Magus lilith (fortune, sustaining)
    The ancient mariner (power, avenger)
    Killer prime (resilience, immunity, advantage)

    Natasmai
    Assassin Banshee
    Magus Lilith
    Killer Prime
    Beast Eddie

    WickermanBR
    Only Magus: Eddie Crusader (Shadow / Advantage); CoTD (Revenge / Power); Madam (Oracle); Alchemist (Angel / Fate).
    Only Warriors: Alex (Dominance / Hunter / Cosmic); Charlotte (Dominance / Imunity / 1 green); Killer Beast (trap / warlord / sustaining); Sekhmet (Valor).
    Only Assassin: Beast Eddy (Dominance / Venom); Banshee (Angel / Fate); Hellraiser (Eternal); Set (Shadow / Imunity).

    Scott-5496
    Alexander Eddie (dominance, present)
    Magus lilith (fortune, immunity)
    Assassin Hellraiser (Advantage/Shell) or Ferryman has worked too.
    Killer prime (Resistance, Prime, Sustain)

    Real_Schweiger
    Alexander (Dominance / Present)
    Assasin Hellraiser (Mark / Ruin / One green to fill)
    M Lilith (Sustaining / Fortune)
    Killer Prime (Trap / shell / Immunity)

    SinGularity-8786
    Beast Eddie (dominace or present/nightmare or hex)
    Hellhound(destiny, tranquility)
    Banshee (sustaining, warlord, immunity)
    Seth (angel, mark)
    (7min a run)
    for auto-grinding madness swapped:
    FFE (greed, tranquility)
    Alchemist (angel/hex)
    Banshee (sustaining, warlord, immunity)
    Seth (angel, mark)
    (4min a run)

    Yup
    Iron Ed
    A Banshee
    Musashi or (A Shinobi)
    The Count
    Gringo-4930

    Currently grinding for:
    Van Helsing - Dark Lilith - Pharaoh Dog King - Werewolf - Minotaur - LoL - Krampus / Celestial

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    Not had a single defeat on mine on madness and done over 250 runs so far. I think it came close a few times to be fair but Alex just seems to be able to power through even on his own at the end. Alex is a worthy Eddie I have found - he really does seem to be a one horse power survival machine compared to most if any others hence why he can do NotB level pretty much on his own - which is crazy when you think about it!
    Missing the following characters (well the ones I want!):

    Samurai Emperor Eddie - Pharaoh Ramesses Eddie - Lone Star - Oni Eddie
    Krampus - Minotaur - Lucifer - Minotaur - Irigami - Cosmic Shinobi

    "We oil the jaws of the war machine and feed it with our babies" - Two Minutes to Midnight - Powerslave

    scott-5496

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    Quote Originally Posted by scott-5496 View Post
    Not had a single defeat on mine on madness and done over 250 runs so far. I think it came close a few times to be fair but Alex just seems to be able to power through even on his own at the end. Alex is a worthy Eddie I have found - he really does seem to be a one horse power survival machine compared to most if any others hence why he can do NotB level pretty much on his own - which is crazy when you think about it!
    He definitely is, but I've found on madness, even he cant quite keep it going without a team around him. I think the blocker is critical and Im definitely missing a blocker that can take fortunes or destiny. Im really missing magus lilith to help survivability greatly.

    I can only do madness on manual with your team, but with alchemist instead of lilith.
    Gringo-4930

    Currently grinding for:
    Van Helsing - Dark Lilith - Pharaoh Dog King - Werewolf - Minotaur - LoL - Krampus / Celestial

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    I've been using Alexander (Valor) Charlotte (Redemption/ Tower) Gunner Banshee
    (Primordial) and Killer Prime (Warlord/Immunity/ Sustaining)

    This team never comes close to dying. Best time is 0:52 but averages at about 1:20 probably

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    Thanks for all the answers, much appreciated! I don't have Alexander Eddie, Charlotte, or any versions of the Killer, but I'll try all the teams that I am able to use.
    Last edited by HeadOnFire; 03-20-2019 at 08:51 PM.
    Where I go, I do not know
    I only know the place I've been
    Like the eagle and the dove, flying so high on wings above
    When all you see can only bring you sadness
    Tell me what you can hear and then tell me what you see
    Everybody has a different way to view the world
    Somewhere there's someone dying in a foreign land
    Meanwhile the world is crying, "stupidity of man!"
    You tell me you're an unbeliever
    Spiritualist?
    Well me, I'm neither

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