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    Quote Originally Posted by Madrik View Post
    and it's gonna be the same person who is also going to get devs to get this changed so it dont work nice work saints.... give out info to get it all stopped. this is why they nerfed banshee FFS
    I have to ask, Aren't you guys in the same clan?

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    Have to clear up a few things.

    1) Musakmaker already mentioned this, but I have a feeling it may have gotten buried. The Banshee “nerf” had nothing to do with Odin. People were positively clamoring for it because she was ruining Arena and Gauntlet. Her Cosmic was BROKEN. Getting “nerfed” v. Odin was an unfortunate side effect.

    2) I don’t know why Odin attacks through Perfect Health Shields, but it seems like he only does it to a single unit at first, and after about 10 turns (this may be hyperbole). The reason he does this could be buried in his description; I might have another look. However, the reason he attacks through Yggdrasil and certain other Talis is no mystery at all. It’s built into his Fury that he disables these talismans.

    And here’s a pro tip: one of the best buffs you can give yourself against Odin is immunity. The big guy can deal with Perfect Health Shields; he can deal with Immunity. He has a hard time dealing with both at the same time. That’s it from me, for now. (But “Down Under” is always looking for motivated people. You don’t have to be level 100 yet with a stacked roster.)

    Saints sin is not the bad guy here... the Devs are not here to ruin the game... and if we aren’t planning to help a brother out, we can at least let him have his thread and stop haranguing him for it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by angelkelly View Post
    I have to ask, Aren't you guys in the same clan?
    was i got kicked because bakura had a problem with my attitude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puntwothree View Post
    Have to clear up a few things.

    1) Musakmaker already mentioned this, but I have a feeling it may have gotten buried. The Banshee “nerf” had nothing to do with Odin. People were positively clamoring for it because she was ruining Arena and Gauntlet. Her Cosmic was BROKEN. Getting “nerfed” v. Odin was an unfortunate side effect.

    2) I don’t know why Odin attacks through Perfect Health Shields, but it seems like he only does it to a single unit at first, and after about 10 turns (this may be hyperbole). The reason he does this could be buried in his description; I might have another look. However, the reason he attacks through Yggdrasil and certain other Talis is no mystery at all. It’s built into his Fury that he disables these talismans.

    And here’s a pro tip: one of the best buffs you can give yourself against Odin is immunity. The big guy can deal with Perfect Health Shields; he can deal with Immunity. He has a hard time dealing with both at the same time. That’s it from me, for now. (But “Down Under” is always looking for motivated people. You don’t have to be level 100 yet with a stacked roster.)

    Saints sin is not the bad guy here... the Devs are not here to ruin the game... and if we aren’t planning to help a brother out, we can at least let him have his thread and stop haranguing him for it.
    Do you remember Eternity Eddie nerf? Was it just a bug or feature?
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    Nice work \m/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olevipoeg View Post
    Do you remember Eternity Eddie nerf? Was it just a bug or feature?
    I don't. I also don't understand the question. Regardless, the point about Banshee stands (if that's what you're getting at). There are clear and obvious advantages to the player base of fixing her Cosmic, especially if you're a fan of i.e. Gauntlet. Banshee was not a good toon who was made worse, she had a broken Cosmic that is no longer [as] broken.

    And come on.. you could auto Odin with a S. Banshee 4*, lvl. 1, with just her Cosmic on and no other Talismans. Is that really the challenge you're looking for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Puntwothree View Post
    I don't. I also don't understand the question. Regardless, the point about Banshee stands (if that's what you're getting at). There are clear and obvious advantages to the player base of fixing her Cosmic, especially if you're a fan of i.e. Gauntlet. Banshee was not a good toon who was made worse, she had a broken Cosmic that is no longer [as] broken.

    And come on.. you could auto Odin with a S. Banshee 4*, lvl. 1, with just her Cosmic on and no other Talismans. Is that really the challenge you're looking for?
    Eternity Eddie is mentioned in relation to other nerfs. One of his original basic attacks did no damage but gave a guaranteed extra turn so you could spam that until an ally gets a fury, rinse and repeat as much as you need. Not any kind of bug, devs just decided that they don't like it after people used him and Sekhmet to clear Night City with enemies never getting a turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mateja View Post
    Eternity Eddie is mentioned in relation to other nerfs. One of his original basic attacks did no damage but gave a guaranteed extra turn so you could spam that until an ally gets a fury, rinse and repeat as much as you need. Not any kind of bug, devs just decided that they don't like it after people used him and Sekhmet to clear Night City with enemies never getting a turn.
    Same thing happened shortly afterward with one of Viking Eddie's basic attacks, which now gives a percentage chance to give an extra turn instead of an automatic one.

    There's still the Iron Eddie + Purple Starfish + Prisoner combo for getting through most of Night City without enemies getting a turn.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Puntwothree View Post
    I don't. I also don't understand the question. Regardless, the point about Banshee stands (if that's what you're getting at). There are clear and obvious advantages to the player base of fixing her Cosmic, especially if you're a fan of i.e. Gauntlet. Banshee was not a good toon who was made worse, she had a broken Cosmic that is no longer [as] broken.
    Green Banshee is still super useful against Odin X. I use Angel, Advantage, and the Banshee T3 on her and she'll do 300K or so damage per hit and lasts a long time. A typical team I'll use on auto is:

    Ramesses Eddie, Final Frontier Eddie, or Benjamin Breeg Eddie: Brave
    Green Banshee: Angel, Advantage, Banshee T3
    Blue Werewolf: Brave

    The fourth toon is any high damage or high survivablity toon, such as Killer Prime, Cosmic Lilith, or Fenrir.
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