Envious Talis seem fair, as written. This is what they say....: “... [some stuff], the AI gets to revenge on every attack, no exceptions, [some stuff], cleanse all negative effects, including silver effects, FROM SELF if [condition that is always met].” In practice, however, Envious Talismans cleanse Self and All Allies, making them an Alchemy Set + Serenity for All + Revenge + Effect Copying + Enemy Effect Stripping + Random Immunities.

They are, I think, better than intended.

Now we’re facing a situation where a meta that was fairly diverse is becoming GREDAN. That’s GRE + Redan, +Icarus, +Ancient Mariner. This defense has weaknesses. It has weaknesses you have to squeeze and contort yourself through, after which Icarus can apply invisible passive disable effects, your toons will malfunction unexpectedly (too fast for screenshots, at 3x speed), and you’ll lose anyway.

If Envious worked as written, a little passive disable could go a long way. You could begin to poke holes in this defense... or any defense playing Envious. I think this would be the simplest and best solution to ensure the current meta doesn’t earn new nicknames and stagnate. That is: fix the talisman. It should only cleanse the character wearing it... or the text should be changed to reflect what it actually does (but this seems maybe too powerful for a 5-set?).

Thank you... and yes, this is a Bug, which should be reported under Bug Reports. It is, in fact: in Maiden’s Video Bugs thread. That thread is better and more thorough than this one. Plus pictures of many impossible things.

;-).