This game may be violating truth in advertising laws

[ErikInVegas]

All I got is old nerfed dupes off the special event souls that are now constantly shilled with popups.

Even 1 star characters from the new collection would have complied with truth in advertising laws.

Laws in the US require ads to be both truthful and 'not misleading' - please go look it up.

Walmart, McDonald's and Amazon have all lost lawsuits over ads that were technically true but misleading to customers.

[Heavy1974]

All I got is old nerfed dupes off the special event souls that are now constantly shilled with popups.

Even 1 star characters from the new collection would have complied with truth in advertising laws.

Laws in the US require ads to be both truthful and 'not misleading' - please go look it up.

Walmart, McDonald's and Amazon have all lost lawsuits over ads that were technically true but misleading to customers.

What do you consider not true or misleading ?

[ErikInVegas]

What do you consider not true or misleading ?

They're advertising "Christmas Souls" but what most people get is not Christmas Souls.

Say you buy a box that says PlayStation. You get it home and it contains a brick instead.

That's clearly fraud.

[Leo_ID]

They're advertising "Christmas Souls" but what most people get is not Christmas Souls.

Say you buy a box that says PlayStation. You get it home and it contains a brick instead.

That's clearly fraud.

Did you mean they're advertising Christmas Souls yet you didn't get any Christmas Character by opening them? If that's the case, I don't think they GUARANTEE that Christmas Souls WILL get you a Christmas Character....

Quoting from the ads: "Christmas souls guarantee 3 to 5 star characters of any class with an increased chance of Christmas Character"

I opened 3 of them today and all I've got are 2 green soldiers and a harpy, yet someone in this forum have got some of the new characters from the Christmas souls. It's all about luck.

If you're not happy with your luck and the randomness of the RNG, then save your money and ironites. Don't bother to buy them.

[FlyingV]

Fair enough, but while your point may have merit, your understanding of the issue is completely off...

What do you consider not true or misleading ?

They're advertising "Christmas Souls" but what most people get is not Christmas Souls.

Say you buy a box that says PlayStation. You get it home and it contains a brick instead.

That's clearly fraud.

They are NOT advertising X-mas souls (i.e., buy Xmas soul, receive Xmas character). They ARE advertising a chance for an Xmas soul, or 3-5* character from any class. Hence, you seem to misunderstand the clear wording of the promo and misconstrue the ad itself as fraud.

Again, the REAL issue is that people don't know what they are buying... not because of the "misleading words of the ad" as you put it, but because they are not forthcoming about the odds, which if disclosed may cost them many sales due to the potential remoteness of scoring certain desirable characters.

[ErikInVegas]

Fair enough, but while your point may have merit, your understanding of the issue is completely off...

They are NOT advertising X-mas souls (i.e., buy Xmas soul, receive Xmas character). They ARE advertising a chance for an Xmas soul, or 3-5* character from any class. Hence, you seem to misunderstand the clear wording of the promo and misconstrue the ad itself as fraud.

Again, the REAL issue is that people don't know what they are buying... not because of the "misleading words of the ad" as you put it, but because they are not forthcoming about the odds, which if disclosed may cost them many sales due to the potential remoteness of scoring certain desirable characters.

When people thought they were clever selling XBox boxes on ebay what did the police do to those people?

Why?

How does ebay treat these types of auctions today?

Why?

They're not being clever, they're just being dishonest and if they don't police themselves eventually the government will step in and do it.

[Vertax616]

When people thought they were clever selling XBox boxes on ebay what did the police do to those people?

Why?

How does ebay treat these types of auctions today?

Why?

They're not being clever, they're just being dishonest and if they don't police themselves eventually the government will step in and do it.

I don't understand the logic you have here. Using your exemple, they don't sell Xbox boxes. They sell tickets that gives various consoles like Gameboys, Nintento Wii's etc.
But these tickets have greater chance for getting "XBox". They don't guarantee that you will "definetly" get an Xbox.

[FlyingV]

When people thought they were clever selling XBox boxes on ebay what did the police do to those people?

Why?

How does ebay treat these types of auctions today?

Why?

They're not being clever, they're just being dishonest and if they don't police themselves eventually the government will step in and do it.

Take these "people" you are are supposedly referring to...

Did such ads say the the following or something substantially similar:

Here's your chance to win an X-box for only $__! That's right, you have a guaranteed chance of getting the box with not shit in it, but your bid could also win you an X-box game, a controller or even the complete X-box!




If these ads did not have language to the exact same effect as what I wrote (and we both know they did NOT), then your analogy does not apply whatsoever.

Why? Because the promo you are bitching about does not say "Win Christmas eddie or a holiday character with an Xmas soul" with no further language whatsoever, though I am beginning to think that is as far as you have bothered to read/retain. If they showed Holiday characters and said "only available through holiday souls" with no further explanation about the promo, your analogy would apply where someone takes a picture of a box with no explanation that there is no console within. However, it is very clear from the EXPLICIT language of the promo that participants stand a chance to win a 3* - 5* character from any class, including gunners and assassins, UNLIKE those ads you claim, which merely show the picture with no explanation that it is merely the box.





This is the second time I have spent time fully explaining this for you now. There will not be a third time. If you can't understand it by this point, you either have a serious reading comprehension issue or you aren't even bothering to fully read the responses made to your thread.

[Ian]

All I got is old nerfed dupes off the special event souls that are now constantly shilled with popups.

Even 1 star characters from the new collection would have complied with truth in advertising laws.

Laws in the US require ads to be both truthful and 'not misleading' - please go look it up.

Walmart, McDonald's and Amazon have all lost lawsuits over ads that were technically true but misleading to customers.

The ads are truthful and not at all misleading, providing you have basic reading and comprehension skills. You should also make an effort to learn what a "shill" actually is, rather than picking words out of your butt.

In case anyone else doesn't yet understand it: Souls in this game are a lottery, a gamble, and the odds are bad. You have a chance to get what you want, but the best characters are the lowest probability - it is entirely possible you could never get what you want from an infinite number of souls. Do not buy souls unless you are happy gambling your ironite/badges/money.

[ErikInVegas]

You should also make an effort to learn what a "shill" actually is, rather than picking words out of your butt.

http://www.dictionary.com/browse/shill
"verb (used with object)
4. to advertise or promote (a product) as or in the manner of a huckster; hustle:
He was hired to shill a new TV show."