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    Week 3 of PvP - Statistics and Discussion

    Week 3 of PvP is a rap. I didn't see how it finished, but know Jofer16 was again #1, Sag #2, and a tight race for #3 with ShaoLinLondo, FallenAngel, and GMAC. Congrats to the winners!

    Edit: ShaolinLondo took #3

    I kicked back at the beginning of the week. Started picking it up mid week. Fought much harder yesterday.

    Results?

    I attacked others 33% less, and received 20% less attacks in return.

    Hot topics of discussion (in addition to the perpetual Prisoner debate ) continue to be # of attacks/matching - and now character limitations/Talisman triggering again. Should other Eddies or characters be beefed up so they can compete in PvP? Or should taunting be nerfed? Or leave it alone?

    I will repeat my opinion that these revenge limits stink without an attack limit. The matching system is goofy, so becoming a sitting duck only makes one feel helpless. Can't have one without the other.

    So Statistics

    I have a Prisoner

    Attack Wins: 97% (402/416) - I attacked 614 the previous week.

    Defense Wins: 32% (109/346) - I was attacked 431 the previous week.
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    ShaolinLondo sent me his stats.

    He has no Prisoner.

    Attack Wins: 94% (676/716)

    Defense Wins: 19% (71/374)
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    Congrats to everyone out there..
    Beginning to wonder what trigger the attack #
    Is it position? Sure being in a race false the debate a bit... Being on top too as you worth more points, personally attacked Nicko less this week, for 12pts there was better deals out there.. Is it the "Frightening" factor of some Prisoners teams, so many factors, hard to say, definitive answers is hard to pinpoint...

    All in all..
    #2 With Prisoner
    ATT-98% (516/525)
    DEF-31% (104/336)

    Lost only 3 or 4 times to tauntfests kind of teams with no button touch for the most part, boring to see em as much but nothing OP it's a strategy like another & there are many possible workarounds, most lost where to "Odd" teams with uncommon & creative builds that I stumbled upon by surprise, good job guys, here's where the future of PvP is to me..
    I'll be probably play & thinkers a bit on defense styles & strategy, that's where the fun & answers to many of grief about PvP lay... Let's have fun, I'll let someone else take down Jofer for now, have a nice week!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sag7272 View Post
    Let's have fun, I'll let someone else take down Jofer for now, have a nice week!
    My $ on Gmac. If he wants to play all week. I mean wtf was that yesterday??? 2000+ points,impressive!!!
    Those that can...do
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    Hahahaha, pathetic that some have to sell themselves as troopers

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    Quote Originally Posted by Silentknight View Post
    My $ on Gmac. If he wants to play all week. I mean wtf was that yesterday??? 2000+ points,impressive!!!
    That guy is a killing machine, his victory streaks are unbelievable I can tell you, look at his rooster, I mean.. it's one of the best strategist out there!
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    Nicko has my stats,only gave him them in case he's doing something on his own. Don't c the point in posting em?
    All I know is I spent a lot less ironite for same reward,as predicted. Will be wasting more SoW today...it's called life! Got a date with my baby,nieces 1 year old Rotti/Sheppard cross. Yeah,scary combo,but she's friendly & a suck. Very protective tho,more so of me than even her owners.
    ENJOY THE DAY!!!
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    Hahahaha, pathetic that some have to sell themselves as troopers

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    Didn't attack a whole lot this past week. I did take a swing at every high ranked player that came up in either list, and nailed all ya'll at least once...

    Attack 98% 89/91
    Defense 36% 136/374

    With a Prisoner.

    Attacking 91 times, and getting 374 in return still seems off. I suppose the DM in my defense line-up makes it seem softer than other Prisoner defenses, but comparing hold rates makes me think its still a solid choice.

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    I'm copying Kris' week 3 stats over from the PvP Week 2 thread because they're extremely relevant. They once again illustrate the broken system.

    Attack Wins: 86% (441/515)

    Defense Wins: 11% (14/133)

    First of all kudos to Kris for placing top 10 - and without a Mummy. He had a Viking - my favorite Eddie for attacking - so it was fun to face him in the arena.

    But I also have to add if he would have had the 300-400+ attacks on him that many of us see he would have been far, far out of top 10 with an 11% Defense percentage. In fact he may not have placed even with a typical 20% had there been 350 attacks on him.

    Simply put - the broken system allowed him to place where others who played more and better statistics likely could not. And while he had a Prisoner, I can't imagine people avoid Viking more than Mummy. He's much easier to beat.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaosego888 View Post
    Another huge problem was constantly going 2nd 80+% (not even exaggerating at all...and to make this 50/50 coinflip garbage even more ridiculous is the fact that I go 1st 100% of the time versus Silentknight but only him... probably 12-15 attacks through the week
    Explains alot! Nice 2 know,guess I don't have to adjust defence too much. Coin flip isn't necessarily 50/50. It's RNG so.... Actually had 1 good day last week 20/24 going 1st,but the rest of week the usual 30/70 or worse. 1 good day in 8 weeks!!!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chaosego888 View Post
    I came up with a good strategy for taking down the prisoners (except for Sag, that is Stun or be stunned to death...I have a chance if I go first and do everything perfect... If he goes first, I just grab a shot of Jagermeister and move on when it is over)
    Loll funny, you'll be happy to know I've finally got rid of that defense & been trying something else for now...
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