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    Quote Originally Posted by zamasu View Post
    With the new feature “Sacrifice” many new questions arise of how it actually works. I spend some time to try to figure it out and this is what I found so far:

    First, get familiar with the terms:

    Essence: Each character has an “essence value” attached to it depending on its natural star tier (1* - 5*), level (1-100), character class (Warrior / Magnus / Sentinel vs. Gunner / Assassin) and Ally vs. Eddie.

    Note: Characters with Skills Shards get extra “essence value”

    Vortex Meter: (From the FAQ) It is long term vortex bonus, each sacrifice will add up in the vortex meter and give you bonus rewards when full.

    NOTE: Running some number we can find a pattern between them:

    You get an extra 25% essence bonus when you sacrifice an Eddie vs. a non-Eddie character
    You get an extra 12.5% essence bonus when you sacrifice a G/A character vs. a non-G/A character


    Essence Values:

    Warrior, Magnus or Sentinel (non-Eddie)


    Natural 3* Natural 4* Natural 5*
    Level 1: 167 Level 1: 1,800 Level 1: 6,400
    Level 60 and 4* Level 1: 240 Level 80: 2,400 Level 100: 8,000
    4* Level 80 and 5* Level 1: 320 5* Level 1: 2,560
    5* Level 100: 400 5* Level 100: 3,200

    Gunner / Assassin (non-Eddie)

    Natural 3* Natural 4* Natural 5*
    Level 1: 188 Level 1: 2,025 Level 1:
    Level 60 and 4* Level 1: 270 Level 80: 2,700 Level 100:
    4* Level 80 and 5* Level 1: 360 5* Level 1: 2,880
    5* level 100: 450 5* Level 100: 3,600


    Warrior, Magnus or Sentinel Eddies

    Natural 3* Natural 4* Natural 5*
    Level 1: 209 Level 1: 2,250 Level 1: 8,000
    Level 60: 300 Level 80: 3,000 Level 100: 10,000
    4* Level 1: 300 5* Level 1: 3,000
    4* Level 80: 400 5* Level 100: 4,000
    5* Level 1: 400
    5* Level 100: 500

    Gunner / Assassin Eddies

    Natural 3* Natural 4* Natural 5*
    Level 1: 235 Level 1: 2,530 Level 1: 9,000
    Level 60: Level 80: 3,375 Level 100: 11,250
    4* Level 1: 5* Level 1:
    4* Level 80: 5* Level 100: 4,500
    5* Level 1: 9,000
    5* level 100:

    SKILL SHARD BONUS ESSENCE: ?

    NOTE: Please Help me complete the numbers and let me kow if I made any mistakes.

    Thanks!


    NOTE2: Wicked Dog King and Queen are giving less points than expected...
    I unlocked my Soldier Eddie just to see what a Level 5 100 A/G would give in sacrifice and sacrifice is telling me 8100... And that's with 9 skill shards attached... Maybe I'm reading something wrong in the list, but you have a level 5* at EXP 1 as 9000... Is it different for Eddies you earn in the campaign as opposed to ones you get through rare souls?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney View Post
    I unlocked my Soldier Eddie just to see what a Level 5 100 A/G would give in sacrifice and sacrifice is telling me 8100... And that's with 9 skill shards attached... Maybe I'm reading something wrong in the list, but you have a level 5* at EXP 1 as 9000... Is it different for Eddies you earn in the campaign as opposed to ones you get through rare souls?
    Soldier Eddie from campaign is Natural 2* and not 5.
    Sacrifice does not give essence based on what the actual star level is of the character, but from which level it originated from

    Of course you can level everything to 100 but the extra essence earned is marginal therefore does not worth it
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sidney View Post
    I unlocked my Soldier Eddie just to see what a Level 5 100 A/G would give in sacrifice and sacrifice is telling me 8100... And that's with 9 skill shards attached... Maybe I'm reading something wrong in the list, but you have a level 5* at EXP 1 as 9000... Is it different for Eddies you earn in the campaign as opposed to ones you get through rare souls?
    I believe he's a Natural 4*

    EDIT: I see what you're saying. It is a mistake, I put the number in the wrong column ..
    Last edited by zamasu; 04-05-2017 at 05:22 PM.

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    You are right in a way

    Just like Wickerman Eddie, Soldier Eddie obtained from campaign is 2*

    Pulled from a soul he comes at 4*
    But I do not know how this is accounted for in terms of sacrifice
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    Anyone know how much essence a skill shard does on a natural 4* G/A leveled up to 5* lvl 100?
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    Excellent thread.

    I can also add that limited time toons (eg; Haunted Pumpkins, Wickerdeer and Possessed Snowmen) give the same amount of Essence as other toons of their star rank.

    EDIT: I was also considering writing up a 'guide to guides' thread that can compile not only guides like these but also the more detailed character threads. I would do it, but I think it's best done by someone who are more sure that they'll be around on the forums for some time.
    Last edited by Kardas; 05-01-2017 at 10:11 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by treeb0mbb View Post
    Anyone know how much essence a skill shard does on a natural 4* G/A leveled up to 5* lvl 100?
    A skill shard is worth 400 essence. Just compared four natural 4 stars leveled to 5 star level 100. Death Dog and Corrupt Ox Cultist give 3600 unsharded. Corrupt Harpy with 1 shard gives 4000 essence, Corrupt Rescuer with 4 shards gives 5200 essence.
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    Hey Zamasu, I was toying around with a dupe Storm and Tailgunner Eddie, and I think I can help you fill in some of the remaining Essence values:
    For natural 3* G/A Eddies:
    4* lv 1: 337
    4* lv 80: 450
    5* lv 1: 449
    5* lv 100: 562

    For natural 4* G/A Eddies:
    5* lv 1: 3600
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    Cool thread.

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    5* lv 1: 6400
    5* lv 100: 8000

    Anybody experiment with multi rewards per tier?
    Would be good to know just how much essence it would take at each tier to get multi rewards.

    Examples:

    Tier 1 sacrifice at 303 essence gave 3 rewards.

    Tier 2 sacrifice at 1297 essence gave 2 rewards. Sacrificed 7 3* lv 1 toons.
    Upped it to 8 for 1365 essence and still gave 2 rewards.
    Need to up that a bit to hit 3 rewards.

    That's as far as I got.

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    I think Jofer covered it in another thread if you double the minimum for a tier you get double if you are able to triple the minimum for a tier you get 3.

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