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    August 2017 Tuning Discussion - PRELIMINARY

    This is the main post to discuss tuning changes that are in an upcoming update.

    You can see the details for the preliminary tuning adjustments in the Game Updates forum post.

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    Senior Member Amarthir's Avatar
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    Interesting update. I like the Corrupt General buffs. A little upset on the augment changes for talismans but I suppose that it hurts them as much as it hurts me. Other than that, seems alright.
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    wow looks awesome so far, good balancing and buffing part on the paper i think.

    just one question regarding alliance general. Will he steal 1 beneficial effect 100% of the time with an additional chance of 50% to steal a 2nd...this would make him a worthy 5*


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    Those updates look pretty interesting. Nice seeing Run To The Hills get some love, along with the two Generals.

    While I'm slightly sad that GCR's Power Move has had its cost increased, I fully understand it's for the better. Revival and AoE Endure for 6 PWR was perhaps a bit ridiculous. Hopefully she won't be mandatory for PVP now. I didn't expect the buffs to Pharaoh and Gunner Golden Son, but I'm happy for it.

    Also good choice for renaming Gunner Pharaoh Dog. It was getting confusing (still feel that way for Sentinel Harpy BTW), and nice that Golden Pharaoh Dog keeps the handy GPD acronym.

    Will be very interesting how PVP will be with the Talisman augments fix. Also interesting that the buff remover/stealers crew have been expanded again.

    All in all, a good step in the right direction I think.

    EDIT: I saw Rainmaker and Vampire Hunter have their Mark Power Move changed. Is this also the case for Assassin Meathead?
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    So many buffs for rtth
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    Interesting changes for RTTH eddie, I just hope the next one is Aces Ed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by slauki View Post
    just one question regarding alliance general. Will he steal 1 beneficial effect 100% of the time with an additional chance of 50% to steal a 2nd...this would make him a worthy 5*
    Correct.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kardas View Post

    EDIT: I saw Rainmaker and Vampire Hunter have their Mark Power Move changed. Is this also the case for Assassin Meathead?
    It will apply to any character that uses the Skill "Mark".

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    Interesting changes for RTTH eddie, I just hope the next one is Aces Ed.
    Yep. He's the next Eddie up for a few improvements.

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    Very nice update from my perspective.

    - I do have RttH maxed.
    - Fix to augments/energy talisman sets coming faster than I anticipated.
    - Yay for Cyborg being smart again about Scan (I believe that's from my multiple requests).
    - I just maxed Death Dog because I couldn't resist, go to the PC and see the upcoming change, awesome.
    - Last but not least, quoting Sparton: The next update will include many other bug fixes and improvements not specified here.

    And a question regarding augments. Some were out of hand, some worked fine before that fix. Are changes to the affected sets to be expected as well? In particular, void wasn't listed.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Lulero View Post
    And a question regarding augments. Some were out of hand, some worked fine before that fix. Are changes to the affected sets to be expected as well? In particular, void wasn't listed.
    Void wasn't explicitly listed, but is nonetheless impacted by the "Fix for Talisman Augments having an increased chance of trigger per hit instead of once per skill". Same thing for other augments that affect the attacker or attacker's team; Invisibility, Cyclone, Penetrating, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB View Post
    Void wasn't explicitly listed, but is nonetheless impacted by the "Fix for Talisman Augments having an increased chance of trigger per hit instead of once per skill". Same thing for other augments that affect the attacker or attacker's team; Invisibility, Cyclone, Penetrating, etc.
    Expected as much. Best part is it will remove an unfair advantage to multiple target toons versus single target ones.

    But what I wanted to know is will those augments stay at the current proc odds?

    In some cases the current logic was out of hand, but in others you'd never see those sets on single target toons because of the bad odds.

    Don't get me wrong, I very much like that fix!
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