December 18th 2017 Update Discussion

[Ezz]

For what it' worth... I have no issue removing buffs, including Endure... I PLAN for that in attack.

Why don’t you let us in on the secret of how you remove endure when protected by PI?

I don’t expect an answer, because u can’t. You just have to wait it out.

Similar to bonfire - I had my full team against just GVal with endure. She kept using her power move and extending endure. My Clair and AVal kept pounding away but GVal hid behind the PI and kept using her power move to extend endure. Finally after around 10 turns the power move failed to extend endure and I killed her. Biggest waste of time ever. The worst part is I had a prisoner too and he never blocked her PI passive since she started the match with regular immunity I guess?

[Askora]

Hey EZZ,

Right now PI is bugged and doesn't prevent buffs from being stolen. I've had AG steal from Eda several times. This bug was confirmed by Sparton. Don't know if it extends to removing buffs, but they can be stolen (at least by defense).

[Askora]

A few more bugs, some that I believe are holdovers from the previous update.

1) Clairvoyant's fury does not give the cleanse buff to anyone she revives. (Think this may be a result of the fix that had her healing before she cleansed the team)

2) If the defense goes first passive blockers ignore the prisoner's passive even though it should still be active that first round.

3) Toons with counter are countering multiple times. Not sure if they're countering debuffs as well as the attacks.

4) I've also had toons with counterstrike counter even though they weren't the toon targeted by a single target attack.

5) And, of course, death dog does not get the damage charge when he uses his power move.

[Ezz]

Hey EZZ,

Right now PI is bugged and doesn't prevent buffs from being stolen. I've had AG steal from Eda several times. This bug was confirmed by Sparton. Don't know if it extends to removing buffs, but they can be stolen (at least by defense).

Lol so PI issue has been addtessed by a bug? Gotta love that.

Also - similar to Clair issue, VHE fury is not granting crit strike to revived toons.

[Yup]

Like I posted....

why not get rid of all healing... get rid of all immunity... get rid of immortality... get rid of invincibility... get rid of invisibility... get rid of endure... get rid of life seal..


All they do is "slow down" PvP, right?

Don't battle teams with Edna if she bothers you.. simple.

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[Kamuz24z]

Why don’t you let us in on the secret of how you remove endure when protected by PI?

I don’t expect an answer, because u can’t. You just have to wait it out.

Similar to bonfire - I had my full team against just GVal with endure. She kept using her power move and extending endure. My Clair and AVal kept pounding away but GVal hid behind the PI and kept using her power move to extend endure. Finally after around 10 turns the power move failed to extend endure and I killed her. Biggest waste of time ever. The worst part is I had a prisoner too and he never blocked her PI passive since she started the match with regular immunity I guess?

Actually AHE’s do or die can remove endure with or without Pi so far is the only toon that is able to do that

[Ezz]

Actually AHE’s do or die can remove endure with or without Pi so far is the only toon that is able to do that

I’ll test this- thanks Kamuz. If this is true than i am ok with PI as it is.

Yup- I am not about mad nerfing or “get rid of everything” I just believe for a good meta all effects need a counter. If something can effectively alter the meta and has no plausible way to counter - than its broken and severely imbalanced

[Askora]

Another bug, this time with Alchemist.

He used his fury, manage to kill the rest of his team and they finally die after 3 turns of ghost. Ghost the alchemist and his counter for ghost keeps changing from 3 to 2 and then back to 3. Prisoner kept stunning him, so he couldn't hit thorn shields to get permadeath. He also couldn't use any skill that would gain him time. He died, but took maybe 10 to 15 rounds or more of him ghosted and almost resulted in a draw as he refused to die.

[slauki]

@EZZ other than that try aop for shorten down the effects, it works too.

@yup: endure has a counter ---> permadeath
healer ---> heal block
shields ---> buffremover
normal immunity : aop/buff remover
PI ---> unintentional bugs

so most things in the game have a natural counter and this is necessary. but as it is PI is a problem because there is no direct counter. and this is the slowest meta, that ever existed almost everyone who playes PVP long enough cam confirm this, and that's bad for players and for devs due to the lack of refills.