What relics do you prefer?

[slauki]

I'm still floored by why a feature no one asked for and no one needed was implemented before actual new, payable, content was implemented. Especially since much of the "we can't" responses have been "we don't want to speed progression".. and isn't that exactly what relics do???

It's only a matter of time before the relics mean nothing overall. I mean yellow buffs were supposed to be "unremovable" and "permanent" yet.. well.. a couple months later.. yellow buffs are just a different colored buff, that's all. Nothing special... I'm waiting on the "unremovable" purple buffs now.

yeah, i can remember when reading the state of the nation. so much cool stuff, and then the relics. totaly unnecessary at the moment and totaly uncool too. maybe they had no idea how to drain our iron coins, that's why they implemented the talismans in the pvp store before...i had the strange idea that BNW was supposed to be the place to farm talismans, but obviously this was wrong...lol..and now we can grind for many months if we want to complete all relics. since many longterm guys are collectors, this might be a solid tactic to keep us engaged in theory. but pvp was dying before the relics and it will possibly die even more in some weeks, despite (or because?) of the relicts. if we would have gotten new content where the relics would be a great help, the story would have been completly different, but NF took the second step before the first, and lets just hope that they won't fall that way...

one sidenote: i think everything needs a counter, so it's fine if the yellow buffs can be removed by a fistfull of chars...so the implementaton of "unremovable" buffs was a problem itself imo...now we only need a counter for some of those stupid liliths...

[Yup]

I like the Liliths and have no issues against any of them

The Warrior one pissed me off.. but just got to kill her quick. Same as when Astra came out.. or Wrath back before the nerf.

[Reeb99]

BOTH Wicker Man and FOTD state they scale on defense. So of COURSE boosting their defense helps. You must not have Viking... He's the only one I can recall off the top of my head that is so clearly NOT based on ATK and MAG stats.

You're missing the point. TWM and FotD Eddie say they scale with defense on basic, but they actually scale with BOTH attack AND defense. I promise if you found a way to boost Viking Eddie's damage type high enough, you would see a difference. Viking Eddie was intended to give us somebody that could benefit from those useless Ivory talismans that nobody else uses.

[Yup]

Well, we'll just have to agree to disagree.

The key word in the description is "SCALES", of course ALL attack power doesn't come from ONLY defense.. it starts with the ATK stat.. then scales based upon DEF stat. So technically, sure it'll use both... but really you see more scaling by sticking to th description and boosting the scaling stat, not the ATK stat.

[Sick]

Perhaps, but it appears he is playing 24 hrs a day.

There have been accounts that were played by more than one player in the past. It seems that at a time they were even played simultaneously on different devices.

[hold]

I'm still floored by why a feature no one asked for and no one needed was implemented before actual new, payable, content was implemented. Especially since much of the "we can't" responses have been "we don't want to speed progression".. and isn't that exactly what relics do???

It's only a matter of time before the relics mean nothing overall. I mean yellow buffs were supposed to be "unremovable" and "permanent" yet.. well.. a couple months later.. yellow buffs are just a different colored buff, that's all. Nothing special... I'm waiting on the "unremovable" purple buffs now.

To counter the insane grind just introduce more grind for unneccesary shit ...

It's really time to ban the bongs from the office ...

[slauki]

To counter the insane grind just introduce more grind for unneccesary shit ...

It's really time to ban the bongs from the office ...

nah man, maybe it's time to allow bongs in the office?

[Yup]

Bongs??.. nah.. that would mean work isn't getting done. Work is getting done, but I'm thinking maybe it's meth... all that effort and spinning.. in a poor direction... 32 hours on a block of code that, well, no one asked for but now that it's coded, I guess we have to use it.... little progress overall.

[hold]

nah man, maybe it's time to allow bongs in the office?

But if you are stoned you don't mind doing the same boring shite over and over again or tap 5.000.000.000.000.000 times on replay to get 500 Lilith fragments.

[T-Man]

There have been accounts that were played by more than one player in the past. It seems that at a time they were even played simultaneously on different devices.

I remember that. They did fix the 2 device playing I believe. Though nothing would stop multiple people playing on one account.