Week 8 of PvP - Statistics and Discussion

[scott-5496]

It just gets more and more odd doesn't it. For the first time I had a much better balance last week than ever before so that for me was good as it meant I needed to play less and got my highest ranking so far with a push on Saturday. I broke top 50 at last! Got to 47 with 2518 points (just) made 310 attacks and was attacked 334 so that is the best I have ever seen.

Now that to me clearly shows that if you are attacked less it is so much easier to climb and you need to spend and play less to get there - that is very easy to see as AI is so poor that number of attacks on you is only going to pull you down. The devs still need to fix this.

The oddities continue for me on another aspect - once the reset happened a shot into the top 20 for the first time ever - I had made number of attacks after the reset (but here is the thing) not a single person attacked me during my attacks so for some reason I leapt up the table with only one refill (maybe 2 - I think). So now I am sitting at number 12 as I write this because I have attacked 74 times with 100% record) and been attacked only 38 times (still with a rubbish hold of 13% - I just cannot get my defence to do better and I do not get it but must be talisman or something I need to fine tune but cannot figure it out). I notice a number of other people starting use my defence strategy that I have used since I started PVP by using a corrupt droid - for the first time last week I started to see more of these and red pyros too.

So for once I seem to be benefitting from the issues so I will take that when I can get it as so far had very little RNG luck - sacrifice has been far from helpful other than getting skill shards and emptying out the dupes - but still it is better than not having it. PVP is to easy on attack and to difficult on defence as AI is poor as I know my toons are super strong and no different to much of what I attack - something is not right but even I know that a few people who attacked me struggled as they were held time after time.

I am still on board with others views that I really am sick of nerfs - I am not sure anyone benefits from them other than if a toons is just set up wrong and not doing what it should be of if you are trying to bring new toons into PVP - nerfing is not the answer - new toons are. Why do people moan about Prisoner when he seems quite easy to counter with immunity? I can beat Prisoner teams and other were beating mine easily enough - even taunt teams do not bother me much as I am set up for that and bad coins tosses - why cant others have immunity talisman on - I see a lot with both defence and immunity on at the same time and even they can be beaten if you set up right.

For me it is the defence AI that is destroying the will to play and also the bad matchmaking - I had an almost level attack/defence last week for the first time and massively benefitted. This week I am benefitting even more and I can now see how a lot of other got so high while attacking so little - they did not need to because they were hardly being attacked.....to me that is the thing that has to be fixed, not nerfs!

My two cents of course!

[zdm-1083]

I ended at #72
350 attacks
330 attacked

That's 94%
With my sooo good defense it's a mess. (lower than 10% hold)
So I invest ironite to be in #100...
I have the impression to have been attacked the whole week by higher ranking teams.

For memory previous weeks I was in the pool of "no attacked" teams.
270/107 for a 40% ratio previous week.

So I think we could this improvment to have everyone playing along the same "rules".

Ah, and for info I did not see Nicko once as well as Jofer if it was not in my defense list.
May I was too low in points but that's odd if because they are so far away in points they are not in attack list anymore...

[Sag7272]

209-Att
256-Def

Theres is some progress, also noted that if I completely stop play arena for almost a day.. At the end of that same day I seems to vanish from lists & it starts over as soon as I play a match..
Most of the week it hoovered around 1:1 Saturday kind of screw things up a bit..
The new updates will be welcome (minus some overreacting over Prisoner & AoP) it's looking good, not played much this week but without 2 nasty crashes I'd have a perfect 100% and don't think it should happen in ANY PvP games..

[Silentknight]

All the people with high defensive attack numbers were probably just on Jofer's lists,lmao!!! Hey Sag!

[DaveMurray]

Since i can't obtain decent toons because of "bad luck" and with the current toss and point system being crap i will only gather the required coins for the store every week from now on.

[Ian]

Since i can't obtain decent toons because of "bad luck" and with the current toss and point system being crap i will only gather the required coins for the store every week from now on.

Out of interest, what toons do you have? I don't have Prisoner, Allied General, Corrupt General, Angel of Strife, or many of the premium Eddies, yet I still managed a 96% win rate this week (and no I don't use Mummy either). Arena will always involve a little luck, but as long as you select the right talismans and pick a sensible team that works together, it is possible to get decent results even without natural 5* characters.

Defense is a lottery, and points system badly designed, but on attack you can get good results if you just do the best with what you've got.

[Enti]

209-Att
256-Def

Theres is some progress, also noted that if I completely stop play arena for almost a day.. At the end of that same day I seems to vanish from lists & it starts over as soon as I play a match..
Most of the week it hoovered around 1:1 Saturday kind of screw things up a bit..
The new updates will be welcome (minus some overreacting over Prisoner & AoP) it's looking good, not played much this week but without 2 nasty crashes I'd have a perfect 100% and don't think it should happen in ANY PvP games..

This I noticed as well...

My stats for last week are:

Position - 13
Attacks - 278
Defense - 223

These figures are somewhat biased now as I did not intend to be so active in the Arena last week, but the double Arena store reset caught me by surprise. I was participating in a darts competition on Saturday, got home 2 hours before weekly reset and I for sure didn't want to lose the opportunity on talismans, souls and the skill shard, so in the last 2 hours I ground PvP like a maniac, gaining 1k+ points and around 1800 coins - I am using the same team indifferent of defending team layout.

Prisoner, you will be missed. Thank you Jofer for the proper memorial both here on the forum and in the Arena as well.

[rider]

Ended 19th with 2958 pts.
Attacks: 256 (got lots of SoW from sacrifice)
Attacked: 84
Ratio: 0.33

The ratio looks low, but it was the highest one for me ever, usually near was 0.25. The "issue" with the matching algorithm is definitly fixed, I feel it extremely in the new week: my ratio since last reset ist going towards 2 (200%) and with my still miserable defence rate it feels really bad I'm curious about my final position this week. it could be a very good week for me, as since I got (finally!) my Hellhound, my win rate is improved from ~75% to over 95%, but with the new (but usual for other players) amount of defenses I hope to keep the 1700 point level

[Rodrigo-3281]

Tier: Warlord III
Rank: 107
Points: 2148

Attacks: 79% (168/213)
Defense: 16% (23/145)

I decided to go for Warlord and finally get the skill shard achievement so I attacked a little more than usual. I was attacked a lot less than before but my hold rate is at it's worst ever. Probably because I began to face the stronger teams like Nicko, Jofer and others and frankly Prisoner teams are killing me.

But now with that achievement out of the way I don't see myself spending any more on SOW. I still want to get coins for skill shards and the 1x/month Legendary Soul (which will disappoint) but I don't see myself putting this amount of effort on PvP in the future.

[iPoop]

ATT: 79
DEF: 228
Ratio: 2.89