April 19th 2017 Update Discussion

[Nicko]

Only last two? No my friend a lot longer. I'm sorry to hear it gets to you. But wellcome to the game people were playing for 2 and a half months now. And believe me those under top 25 know and shared the pain you are experiencing now. Wait a few days, I'm sure it will sort out when this confusion rush is done.

You predicted complainers

I was enduring crazy attacks too before I vanished. And it was an eye opener how much more I enjoyed the process after the attacks dropped.

Again - it's not the attacks themselves - it's how much they work against you in the current environment

Just because many were - and are - enduring it does not make it a good experience. Like I've said before - we all choose to participate or not knowing how things are set up.

But a little venting goes a long way . Ive been here since beta and feelings ebb and flow.

But I'm still here so while griping may surface every once in a while - that damn optimism is still there too...

[Jofer16]

Yeah - for the last two weeks those of us at the top have been blessed with the attack bug.

Now attacks are going through the roof and so far I've dropped 450 points since last night as almost every attack results in a 20 point loss.

Honestly - still sorting out feelings. Certainly the way it was is not fair. But after enjoying that pleasant PvP experience - and then back to this - it leaves a pretty sour taste.

Frankly put - the two steps forward three steps back sucks. This point system is psychologically erosive.

The developers know this - yet it remains.

I have enough Iron Coins to buy stuff for a long, long time and while it's nice to get the extra shards from placing every week, at this point in my opinion it's just not worth it

I have the next week off and still may continue to play in the arena - it becomes a habit - but at this point that's all it is. It's not fun. And that's a shame because it could be.

And it's a habit I think I'm ready to break.

Sorry for the negative post - but just not feeling good about this game right now.

No apologies necessary when you speak the truth, negative or positive. Nice to hear I’m not alone, playing a few lists last night just seemed like a chore, and all the other valid complaints people post that just go totally unresolved and unnoticed by the dev team. It’s like they know the ship is sinking so they are worried about releasing more money grab carrots on a stick, and not really worried about fixing bugs at all. Easy way to make a game appear successful in the short term to the suits in charge, but it’s a death sentence long term.

Games like this need long term players, it’s not a popular enough subject matter to get a constant turnover of new players to feed the greed (like Pokemon, sports apps, star wars, etc.). Other games can remain buggy, but this one’s going to crumble in months time if this trend continues, mark my words. If they lose the dedicated players they’ve had, it’s game over.

I was really hoping this week they’d focus on bugs, instead an even buggier update with some shiny distractions. Par for the course.

[Bradata]

Yeah - for the last two weeks those of us at the top have been blessed with the attack bug.

Now attacks are going through the roof and so far I've dropped 450 points since last night as almost every attack results in a 20 point loss.

Honestly - still sorting out feelings. Certainly the way it was is not fair. But after enjoying that pleasant PvP experience - and then back to this - it leaves a pretty sour taste.

Frankly put - the two steps forward three steps back sucks. This point system is psychologically erosive.

The developers know this - yet it remains.

I have enough Iron Coins to buy stuff for a long, long time and while it's nice to get the extra shards from placing every week, at this point in my opinion it's just not worth it

I have the next week off and still may continue to play in the arena - it becomes a habit - but at this point that's all it is. It's not fun. And that's a shame because it could be.

And it's a habit I think I'm ready to break.

Sorry for the negative post - but just not feeling good about this game right now.

I feel you, man! My relentlessness is wearing out lately, all these bugs and losses because of crushes, I'm tired!
Same here with the ironite, big stock of it but I just don't see the point of using it at this time.

Only last two? No my friend a lot longer. I'm sorry to hear it gets to you. But wellcome to the game people were playing for 2 and a half months now. And believe me those under top 25 know and shared the pain you are experiencing now. Wait a few days, I'm sure it will sort out when this confusion rush is done.

I think you don't understand or you don't want to the reason why the people in the top 25 are there! The people in the top 25 are the ones that spend a lot of time playing the game and I don't mean just PVP battles but also building strategic play teams with their toons and experimenting for a long time with them to see which talisman set is best for certain character and how those characters act in the team of 4 for defense and hopefully hold against people who only want to use the free ironite the game gives them every day but they still want to be alongside with the above mentioned people. Nicko, me and I'm sure all other top players are feeling robed of the hard earned achievements we've accomplished so far because of the direction this game is heading right now.
I am sure that in a point system set up where the points won or lost are the same for any rank players, the top 25 list still is going to have the same names that are there now.
Soooo... what pain?! There is no pain just disappointment

[Bradata]

No apologies necessary when you speak the truth, negative or positive. Nice to hear I’m not alone, playing a few lists last night just seemed like a chore, and all the other valid complaints people post that just go totally unresolved and unnoticed by the dev team. It’s like they know the ship is sinking so they are worried about releasing more money grab carrots on a stick, and not really worried about fixing bugs at all. Easy way to make a game appear successful in the short term to the suits in charge, but it’s a death sentence long term.

Games like this need long term players, it’s not a popular enough subject matter to get a constant turnover of new players to feed the greed (like Pokemon, sports apps, star wars, etc.). Other games can remain buggy, but this one’s going to crumble in months time if this trend continues, mark my words. If they lose the dedicated players they’ve had, it’s game over.

I was really hoping this week they’d focus on bugs, instead an even buggier update with some shiny distractions. Par for the course.

I couldn't say it better myself!

[R1ck]

It is devs game, they release new characters so people spend money in their buggy game; make them 5* toons or 5* Eddie, very rare toon, so more money spent. It was long time ago I decided not to spend money in this game because we get only the “chance” to get new characters, not even the character we want itself. As a Maiden fan started to play because I wanted to collect Eddies, it has been long time I don’t get any new Eddie, kinf of disappointed of how this game is managed by devs. Well, it’s a feeling I want to keep for a while, not too long either. Hope there is a real new content soon, mean BNW.

[gmac]

Hi everybody,

Don't hate me, but I like the matchmaking changes. Not that I like getting attacked 20 times overnight, but at least it's the same for everybody, and that is really important. Sure revenge and point system needs revision/balancing. It's tough and does not encourage us to play. But maybe late runs are back, and I kind of like them

And I'd make them, except I can't play more than 20 minutes. I use all the bats, and they just give me a headache, really, they do. This and many, many, other bugs are killing the game right now.

So Devs, please, events are cool, necessary, you cash on them, new Eddies etc, but please, fix this game first.

Oh, and new content!

Cheers
gmac

[Caretaker]

You predicted complainers

I was enduring crazy attacks too before I vanished. And it was an eye opener how much more I enjoyed the process after the attacks dropped.

Just because many were - and are - enduring it does not make it a good experience. Like I've said before - we all choose to participate or not knowing how things are set up

But I'm still here so while griping may surface every once in a while - that damn optimism is still there too...

U see how things were enjoyable.. and suddenly boohoo it is not fun and now we say it is not good experience, when swimming in the same sea with people noone cared about, and that was vast majority, that were experiencing what is new to us now. The feeling we didn't care about when folks were frustrated telling it sucks.
Sorry, I like this more.

Great points Gmac!
I wish this to last, so we can have 'who wants to be an Eternal' with equal chance. Forget the talk, let's play.

[Nicko]

U see how things were enjoyable.. and suddenly boohoo it is not fun and now we say it is not good experience, when swimming in the same sea with people noone cared about, and that was vast majority, that were experiencing what is new to us now.

Caretaker - I'm not getting you. I saidI had the same experience with tons of attacks on me all along for months. And if you look at my posts from the last several weeks - I've mentioned reformation of the point system even while I enjoyed the attack bug.

If you take the "let's all suffer with the same crappy system" approach that's cool. Enjoy. I think it needs reform. My opinion.

[Jofer16]

Hi everybody,

Don't hate me, but I like the matchmaking changes. Not that I like getting attacked 20 times overnight, but at least it's the same for everybody, and that is really important. Sure revenge and point system needs revision/balancing. It's tough and does not encourage us to play. But maybe late runs are back, and I kind of like them

And I'd make them, except I can't play more than 20 minutes. I use all the bats, and they just give me a headache, really, they do. This and many, many, other bugs are killing the game right now.

So Devs, please, events are cool, necessary, you cash on them, new Eddies etc, but please, fix this game first.

Oh, and new content!

Cheers
gmac

That's what I thought about the bats too, should come with one of those blinking light causes seizures warning messages, just hurts the brain! lol

And I agree on matchmaking, im all for fairness. My concerns are more the perpetual lasting bugs. I could care less if I'm getting more attacks than others, if I want to win, I'm going to win regardless. I've fought through enough relentless attack/revenge waves in the past to know I'm persistent enough to bust through.

We're all so passionate about this game, we're basically pleading and begging for some stability. Such a missed opportunity so far for the dev team.

[Tritium]

I agree with a lot of the points you guys (especially Jofer and Nicko) are making about the state of the game. We're all sticking around largely due to our love of the game and the band (for those that have followed them for a while ─ I actually don't listen to Maiden at all haha, just have fun with this game), but even the power of these things to keep us around is beginning to dwindle over time as each update releases even more bugs.

Devs, please focus an update solely on crushing the many bugs within the game. There's not much point in releasing new content without fixing the game-breaking issues that the game currently has. Doing so will only lead to the players getting more and more fed up with the game over time, and you absolutely NEED players to be here for the long haul if this game is to stick around for a while. I don't agree with the statement that "the customer is always right", but I do believe that if you want to keep receiving the customer's money and time, then you must listen to them and provide what they want (even if you tweak it a bit in delivery).