January 2018 Tuning Discussion - PRELIMINARY

[Symbiote]

Do you have any examples for which sections/pages have problematic translations? If it's some of our older text, we can get that relocalized, but if it's newer event text, we can bring those examples back to our localizers to see where the breakdown is.

Hi Sparton, thanks for your response.

When i set the game in the options to english everything is fine ingame, but the whole news section is in german., every page. They aren't that horrible how i wrote (i mean my english isn't the best too. xD but here and there are some words that aren't translated that "good" in my opinion or spelling mistakes) but it is confusing if you play in english and the news are in german. I read them here again for better understanding. (and learning)

It would be great if i set the game to english the news section would be too, because it is easier to understand if you know all the talis descriptions, names and so on, but if i read the news for new characters or whatever in german it is a bit confusing..

I hope you do understand what i mean...


btw. your avatar the Sentinel Soulless Demon was my first best and most loved non eddie character when i started playing a year ago.

[Symbiote]

Hey Sparton, the pop ups explaining about new events are always German. It reads like a machine translation.

Yeah, didn't read that post, he nailed it.
In a nutshell.

[Sparton_LOTB]

Hey Sparton, the pop ups explaining about new events are always German. It reads like a machine translation.

To be honest: I hope it is a machine translation!

When i set the game in the options to english everything is fine ingame, but the whole news section is in german., every page. They aren't that horrible how i wrote (i mean my english isn't the best too. xD but here and there are some words that aren't translated that "good" in my opinion or spelling mistakes) but it is confusing if you play in english and the news are in german. I read them here again for better understanding. (and learning)

Thanks for the feedback guys. I've passed this on to my teammate who coordinates with the localizers to follow up or reconsider who we use to help localize the German news info in our game.

If you do notice any specific sentences or paragraphs with problems and can private message me the details, that'll help with ensuring we narrow down the exact problem for improving the quality of future news pages in German.

Besides I play the game in English as well, but I remember that the Alliance General in the German translation dealt magic damage. Did that ever get amended to physical damage? Anyone playing the game in German and in possession of the Alliance General?

I believe that was incorrectly referred to magic damage in all languages at one point, but was corrected. If that's still incorrect (in any language), do let me know what language it's wrong in and we can flag that for retranslation.

It would be great if i set the game to english the news section would be too, because it is easier to understand if you know all the talis descriptions, names and so on, but if i read the news for new characters or whatever in german it is a bit confusing..

Yeah, right now due to how the web pages for the news is set up, it gets your device language (instead of in-game language setting). I believe there's a task to instead use your in-game language choice, so I'll follow up with the team to see what the state of that task is.

btw. your avatar the Sentinel Soulless Demon was my first best and most loved non eddie character when i started playing a year ago.

Cool to hear!

Fun fact: when I first started playing after joining the team, the Sentinel Soulless Demon was the character I got from my first Legendary Soul (and one of my first characters above 3 stars). I originally wasn't much of a fan of him, but decided to give him a shot and try out some different talisman combinations... eventually settling on the Blind + Invisibility combo that helped carry me through most of the campaign and progressing through stuff like the Lord of Light and Brave New World when they came out. Sometimes you just don't know how good a character can be until you give it a chance to shine!

[Dank Brew]

PI is fine. No matter what, people will find a loophole or exploit to have the "best" defense or offense. I personally don't see any issues with PI and don't have trouble facing people with it. But then again I don't do PvP more than once a day unless its an event.

But the main point is that when they change it, those same people will find another annoyingly stupid way to piss you off with an exploit.

The tuning changes look great to me. Thanks NF.

[Dank Brew]

Hey Sparton, quick question... When on autoplay, why can't it change eddies? The change eddie button goes red/yellow when his health is low, why doesn't it change to the other? Is this on your guys radar for future updates?

[slauki]

Hey Sparton, quick question... When on autoplay, why can't it change eddies? The change eddie button goes red/yellow when his health is low, why doesn't it change to the other? Is this on your guys radar for future updates?

please don't ask for this dank. as they tried to implement this last time, the eddies changed in an unpredictible way, which made autofarming extremly annoying. you could suddenly be beaten in powerslave because the ai changed to a 4* without talismans. so it was not possible to level eddies anymore. they swiched it back pretty quick, thank god.

regardless what you do guys, please don't try this ever again. never ever please even the memory of this hurts and pisses me of :P

so be careful what you ask for

[Dank Brew]

Hmm don't remember this. Must have really been a fast withdrawal haha

I only brought it up because my toons really really really love to completely avoid their skills and just wait to die. They are notoriously stupid, my entire roster. Bastards. Can hardly auto farm BNW GOF VII right now, and it's super freaking easy - it pisses me off.

[Sparton_LOTB]

Hey Sparton, quick question... When on autoplay, why can't it change eddies? The change eddie button goes red/yellow when his health is low, why doesn't it change to the other? Is this on your guys radar for future updates?

please don't ask for this dank. as they tried to implement this last time, the eddies changed in an unpredictible way, which made autofarming extremly annoying. you could suddenly be beaten in powerslave because the ai changed to a 4* without talismans. so it was not possible to level eddies anymore. they swiched it back pretty quick, thank god.

regardless what you do guys, please don't try this ever again. never ever please even the memory of this hurts and pisses me of :P

so be careful what you ask for

slauki's (understandable) PTSD aside, yeah, there was a period where we tried to add "smart" swapping of Eddies on autoplay to swap an Eddie out if it got low health and though it could swap a stronger and/or class advantage Eddie in. However, it just didn't work reliably, so we reverted that functionality not long after.

If we were to pursue that again, we'd need to make sure we're a lot more strict to what would be considered an "acceptable" swap out (and/or provide some kind of functionality so that could be turned on or off), and since that can be extremely difficult to adjudicate for players of all kinds of player progression, we haven't gone back to that subject since the first attempt.

I only brought it up because my toons really really really love to completely avoid their skills and just wait to die. They are notoriously stupid, my entire roster. Bastards. Can hardly auto farm BNW GOF VII right now, and it's super freaking easy - it pisses me off.

The current AI doesn't have a good sense of using skills in certain orders; it just picks a character to act, and that character does what it thinks is best in isolation (which sometimes leads to things like burning power on a non-healing skill when another character could have used a heal that turn). It's a general AI improvement we want to take some time to tackle, but primarily our focus is on fixing combat bugs over general AI improvements.

[Dank Brew]

slauki's (understandable) PTSD aside, yeah, there was a period where we tried to add "smart" swapping of Eddies on autoplay to swap an Eddie out if it got low health and though it could swap a stronger and/or class advantage Eddie in. However, it just didn't work reliably, so we reverted that functionality not long after.

If we were to pursue that again, we'd need to make sure we're a lot more strict to what would be considered an "acceptable" swap out (and/or provide some kind of functionality so that could be turned on or off), and since that can be extremely difficult to adjudicate for players of all kinds of player progression, we haven't gone back to that subject since the first attempt.



The current AI doesn't have a good sense of using skills in certain orders; it just picks a character to act, and that character does what it thinks is best in isolation (which sometimes leads to things like burning power on a non-healing skill when another character could have used a heal that turn). It's a general AI improvement we want to take some time to tackle, but primarily our focus is on fixing combat bugs over general AI improvements.

Thanks for the reply. I'm glad to hear that combat bugs are the primary focus. I was just curious cause of my idiot teams haha
And the PTSD comment was great hahahaha

[Dank Brew]

Here's a new one (for me)... Eddie wasn't allowed to scroll side to side for his other skills/attacks in PvP. Luckily for me it was a very easy opponent so it didn't make a difference. But still... Should be looked into. It was the battle that just happened Sparton.