March 6th 2018 Update Discussion

[Blackislovas]

How long does it have to bloody take, to update the iOS store. Still waiting for an "updated version" to play. Plus the mission objectives in achievements don't work. You can do what it asks completely, but it just doesn't respond - still at that "stun nomad 3 times 2/3.

[Patrice-1201]

Any chance to reconsider the cost of Lillith Souls with Frontier Coins 4 months to get one char is enormous, 500 would be a lot more sensible?

[DIEDD]

Any chance to reconsider the cost of Lillith Souls with Frontier Coins 4 months to get one char is enormous, 500 would be a lot more sensible?

+1 in this, the characters are great, yes, but they cost so many frontier coins, and because the new ways to get these coins are far from happening now ("Coming Soon"), I think it's right.

[Reeb99]

Kaz and I are actively investigating this and similar issues.

Basically, what happened is that a change in logic for handling effects that are supposed to do something to the opposing team was changed to fix issues with certain skills (such as damage an enemy to heal your team); however, abilities that were built under the assumption of the old, faulty logic then end up being reversed for who they're supposed to affect.

If you have any other cases where this kind of problem has occurred, please post in this thread or in the Bug Reports subforum and we will track down and fix the associated skill.

That deal with healing the enemy is extremely widespread. So far:

Speed of Light Eddie's leech skill, Grim Reaper Eddie's drain health debuff (could effect all drain health debuffs? Haven't checked Explosive talismans yet.)

Are you sure about where the faulty logic lies?

[BonFire]

I have a question. Since we get these really powerful toons out and whatnot, and changing his passive messed with the game for months trying to find the balance and fix the glitches that came with it, is there any chance of rolling back the nerf to the Prisoner. It is a reasonable version of his passive, but it's been long enough, eh? Eh?

[Sparton_LOTB]

...everything that makes grinding so much more painfull is a serious problem. many goodbye threads have proven this many times.

The feature we wanted to add to help with this just wasn't working reliably enough, so we had to put our testing and programming efforts elsewhere. The feature to help with that is close, though.

to end with something positive: i like the approach to be able to get the lilith with frontier coins. would be cool if we could get an additional source where they come from (hopefully gauntlet).

You'll be able to get Frontier Coins from Lilith Souls, so there'll now be three renewable sources of getting Frontier Coins (Trooper, Eternity, and Lilith Souls).

They may feature in the Gauntlet rewards as well, but not with whatever the initial closed beta will become available with (when that arrives).

Any chance to reconsider the cost of Lillith Souls with Frontier Coins 4 months to get one char is enormous, 500 would be a lot more sensible?

The cost will be 700 Frontier Coins when they become available. We are not considering changing that at this time.

That deal with healing the enemy is extremely widespread. So far:

Speed of Light Eddie's leech skill, Grim Reaper Eddie's drain health debuff (could effect all drain health debuffs? Haven't checked Explosive talismans yet.)

Are you sure about where the faulty logic lies?

Many Drain HP effects have that problem, which is likely do to a single data file having a flipped reference for targeting; Kaz has identified the incorrect data file and is preparing a fix for that.

Right now we're double checking anything that could be a problem, and we have tentative fixes for about half a dozen different skills, but we still need to verify those fixes work as intended.

I have a question. Since we get these really powerful toons out and whatnot, and changing his passive messed with the game for months trying to find the balance and fix the glitches that came with it, is there any chance of rolling back the nerf to the Prisoner. It is a reasonable version of his passive, but it's been long enough, eh? Eh?

There's no plan to change the Prisoner's passive. We feel it's much better for the health of the game that everything has counters, and the old Passive Aggression lacked the ability to be answered by anything but another Prisoner (which itself wasn't even a real answer in many cases).

[JJJ428]

Sparton I wanted to see if you could elaborate on the relics will they apply to a persons defensive team or only offensive? Thanks.

[Leviathan]

How long does it have to bloody take, to update the iOS store. Still waiting for an "updated version" to play. Plus the mission objectives in achievements don't work. You can do what it asks completely, but it just doesn't respond - still at that "stun nomad 3 times 2/3.

If the update has not appeared in your app store, try these steps:

1) Force close Legacy of the Beast
2) Force close your App Store app
3) Reopen the App Store app, and tap the Updates tab (bottom right)
4) You should see the new Legacy of the Beast update in that tab
5) If you don't see the new version, pull down on the list of available updates, and this should force the store to pull down the most recent information

I hope that helps!

[slauki]

There's no plan to change the Prisoner's passive. We feel it's much better for the health of the game that everything has counters, and the old Passive Aggression lacked the ability to be answered by anything but another Prisoner (which itself wasn't even a real answer in many cases).

just something to cosider: his real counter is immunity (from talis) now, so he would be in line even with his old passive. this wasn't the case in the first pvp meta.
if you are not planning to roll it back, how about making his passive least one round/turn longer?
the main problem now is if you go 2nd against a blocker for example we cannot count on his passive disable, regardless of immunity.
we are in a disadvantage anyway since we go 2nd and we have to rely on luck to disable a specific passive. that's a flaw imo.
one more turn of passive disable would solve the problem and make him much more usefull, without having too much of an overall impact i think.

[Askora]

I have a question. Since we get these really powerful toons out and whatnot, and changing his passive messed with the game for months trying to find the balance and fix the glitches that came with it, is there any chance of rolling back the nerf to the Prisoner. It is a reasonable version of his passive, but it's been long enough, eh? Eh?

There's no plan to change the Prisoner's passive. We feel it's much better for the health of the game that everything has counters, and the old Passive Aggression lacked the ability to be answered by anything but another Prisoner (which itself wasn't even a real answer in many cases).

Really? Silly thinking on my part I guess, but I was under the impression that immunity was the counter to his passive. Maybe I'm wrong, I know there are many times that he's ignored perfect immunity that was applied to other characters by Eda although now that she only does it for 1 round it's almost pointless.