Primordial talisman

[Liebhild]

NF gives a shit what is written here in the forum.

They simply continue with their fraud.

THEY HAVE TO BE REPORTED AT A APPROPRIATE PLACE.

I think every country has some sort of consumer protection.

Companys like NF will ruin a complete business model because of their fraud. Honest companys will get punished because of cheaters like NF.

Look back at hold's car example. Everyone here would sue this carseller. What NF is doing here is 100% fraud. They knew that they would nerf them, but still were selling them, so there you have the intent needed for a fraud.

[Stormseye]

Well there pretty much is no way to win if you aren't running Prisoner and Primordial. There is no more overcoming it. Buffs are still stacking and 9/10 times Sentinel Lillith will have 100% crit strike. I have full max Magic Global and Class magic relics and still can't do enough damage kill one person if Sentinel Lilith has perfect critical strike chance up from Primordials. I have seen it heal for 4500 each tick. Don't forget the Heal Shield will also get crit heals. Think about this - using Clansman to continue to attack with Sacred heart and still cannot do enough damage. What does that say to the average player who doesn't have maxed damage relics? Really crappy that the only way I would have been able to compete would have been to drop another 40 bucks. Most common builds are Iron Eddie/Sentinel Lillith/Gunner Lillith and Prisoner. Unless you are running exact same build you probably aren't going to win. Even PoM fury is not completely removing buffs. Time and time again I will clear and each opponent will still have 1 golden buff even if I still have allies that haven't went yet. Really sad state of the game. Maybe time to move on as well like some of the others.

[Muzzleloader]

NF is in a no win situation with the primordial talisman. NF did post on this site that they were going to nerf these talisman. If they would have pulled them from purchase they would have denied fellow players from possibly being able to complete a set. It may not appear fair to have a set of talisman for sale that they will nerf, but in the end we all have the same talisman.

There has been complaints on nerfing the tallisman, but almost everyone who has them are still using them. If they have been nerfed so badly then why are they still in use. It appears almost all winning teams are using them.

How could NF refund or recalled them. How could they recall all rewards from the sac pit and all earned rewards, such as completed missions, PvP wins, and battle rewards.

As I stated before this is a no win situation. How many times have characters been nerfed that players spent money to acquire, even if it is only purchasing ironite. Should everyone receive a refund every time there is a change that they don't agree with.

[edsel]

So what if they buy back all primordials so no one has them. The arena was better before, now those who got them and invested heavily like me to get an advantage feel ripped off cuz of Nerff. If someone spent cash I am sure they are pissed off. If you don't have a prisoner with a set the arena dynamics change considerably. So compensate us fairly for them, remove all primordial now, like an automobile recall, then reissue in future with a limit of 6? No bitching about 4 sets stacking, playing field reset and advantage is erased, perceived or real. This mess about the first few heavy sacrifices getting windfall of 12 per vortex is not our fault. The stacking and including super powerful effects that have now nerfed been removed is also not our fault. I would not have maxed 30 of these if I knew they were getting downgraded.

No one is happy now. Recall, compensate, reissue with limits and clearly defined specs.

[Muzzleloader]

If they financial compensate everyone, how are they going to recall profits generated from them. If someome was unfortunate not to be able to claim a set or more it would be unfair to them to let others reap the benefits and then be compensated. I was lucky to claim 2 full sets, i ionly upgraded 1 set.

[edsel]

I say compensate with game currency, only cash if someone paid cash for them. They have records to refund the money purchases. Sacrifice earners like myself could get souls, shards, ironite, something of use? Nerfed, multiple sets of these are not desirable.

[Stormseye]

I have asked before but no answers, how do the people that have them match up against others that have them? I was one of the few who did not get a set at all so I want to know if it balances out or not? If they balance each other out then there is nothing I can complain about, other and my poor luck not getting them. I have prisoner but no Primordial and have played him against others that do and the Passive Disable seems to nullify. Neither side has Passive Disable at start or match.

I would strongly be opposed to them being removed from the game despite me losing to them constantly. While I understand people invested real money and in game resources to get them and they should not be short changed, maybe the solution would be to offer the set to everyone either as an event reward or for Ironite. That is based of course on the theory that they balance out if both teams have them. All I can do now is try and find a combination that works but it sure is a big stinking pile and I don't know how long I will continue to shovel it.

[Muzzleloader]

When they were at full power and stacking it was alot of the luck of the coin toss. It has settled down and the tune combination along with the luck of the buffs given are both at play. The more sets give better buff odds, but you still need the proper team combo.
One thing they have done is make the rest of the pve game so much easier. A new player lucky to get a set will walk all over over battles that where hard fought earlier, especially with all the op. Eddie's now available.

[Amarthir]

This entire thread is proof that no matter what ideas any developer has, people are always going to bitch and complain about it, invent conspiracy theories, demand refunds (lmao), and overall just be so f*cking negative all the time. I used to be apart of the whole, Holy Smoke thing but then I realized how freaking childish some of you are and you actually make me want to play the game more. You guys need to either grow tf up or leave the game, because all that you're doing here is being unnecessarily negative.

[hold]

This entire thread is proof that no matter what ideas any developer has, people are always going to bitch and complain about it, invent conspiracy theories, demand refunds (lmao), and overall just be so f*cking negative all the time. I used to be apart of the whole, Holy Smoke thing but then I realized how freaking childish some of you are and you actually make me want to play the game more. You guys need to either grow tf up or leave the game, because all that you're doing here is being unnecessarily negative.

The worse a product gets the more you want to use it? Interesting ... The preferred customer for today's industries ... Feed them shit and they ask for seconds ...