[Devs please read] The grinding system is beyond broken. NOT A RANT.

[Gonzo]

Thanks Gonzo for bringing this issue up and Matt_LOTB (the dev) for giving us a heads up on the coming re-balance.

I would like to thank Gonzo for starting a great thread. A lot of good points were made regarding the game.

We all did it, guys. I just addressed an issue that was really serious and tried to keep the thread in topic (although some might find that offensive).

I'm glad Matt was able to post. This kind of feedback is what's going to make this game even better.

[Jessiah]

I, for one, don't agree with the 1* drops. they have their purpose and I'd rather they drop constantly than having to go to a crappy level and get crap rewards for the sake of having a chance at getting a 1* or 2* evo item. I think a reduction in the drop rate for that would be the best answer. an all-out drop to 0 chance of getting it doesn't seem like it will help in the long run.

Point. Perhaps cutting the drop rate of 1 * star items to 10% would a be better balance tweak for the Madness levels after AilK.

Perhaps some farming improvement options could be introduced into the the store? (Ie. For x number of battles, only evo shards will drop); For x number of battles, no 1 * items will drop; et_al. Perhaps these items could be bought using trooper badges?
Right now the only real use I have for it is grinding out skill shards.

[aur0ra85]

Trying to find particular talismans, even common ones is a nightmare ATM. I have no idea how I'll ever see a set of matched guard, energy, paralysis, etc.

[Jessiah]

I've been auto-grinding Combat Red on Madness since the recent server side update hit.
The drops have now entered the FUBAR convention.
NOT A SINGLE, SOLITARY, EVO SHARD, 2 STARS OR HIGHER in over 30 runs!
60% is now 1* drops be it runes and talismans or common souls, no XP shards, and 4 1* evo shards as a taunt!

If I was a paying customer (which I'm not so long as I am essentially playing a beta product that needs heavy QA)
you would be getting a response from me that takes inspiration from Gunnery Sargent Hartman.

This Time Rift Dungeon thing that fixes the Evo shard drops had better not be paid DLC, or I'll quit on the spot.

[Dutch]

I've been auto-grinding Combat Red on Madness since the recent server side update hit.
The drops have now entered the FUBAR convention.
NOT A SINGLE, SOLITARY, EVO SHARD, 2 STARS OR HIGHER in over 30 runs!
60% is now 1* drops be it runes and talismans or common souls, no XP shards, and 4 1* evo shards as a taunt!

If I was a paying customer (which I'm not so long as I am essentially playing a beta product that needs heavy QA)
you would be getting a response from me that takes inspiration from Gunnery Sargent Hartman.

This Time Rift Dungeon thing that fixes the Evo shard drops had better not be paid DLC, or I'll quit on the spot.

I have gotten a few 2* evo shards and xp shards in shadow of the valley this morning, so try that one, the drop rates have definitely become dreadful tho

[Jennie-5128]

Only 1* EVO shards for me as well, and only two of those. And not a single xp shard. Not one. Shedloads of runes I can't use yet because all my talismans are bottlenecked waiting for 1* rainbow EVO runes to go up from 20 though

* le sigh *

[ngoni]

It is a slap in the face to be clearing the most difficult content in the game and get 1* loot. When it takes 80 sands just to farm up a single 3* rainbow evo shard and each of your 30 talismans takes 9 each that's pushing six months just to complete a single set.

[Gonzo]

I think you are mistaking evo shards with evo runes.

You've got 30 talismans ready to rank up???

I've got plenty of those of those, when you say "clearing the most difficult content in the game" I assume you are farming Underworld Madness... Try Battlefield Madness I farmed that for gold and I have 2 stacks of evo RUNES. Maybe the drop rates are better there.

I don't see many people having problems with those.

Either way, 30 talismans is a 5 character team, when you only use 3 or 4. I don't level up every talisman, I move them first and then decide whether to upgrade them or not.

[Dutch]

im having issues in getting them as well, i currently only have 3 3* rainbow evo runes, they dont seem to drop anywhere for me, i havbe tons of talismans stuck at lvl 40

[bridgetocross]

im having issues in getting them as well, i currently only have 3 3* rainbow eve runes, they dont seem to drop anywhere for me, i havbe tons of talismans stuck at lvl 40

I have found the best place to get them is Powerslave on Madness. I know it doesn't say they drop but I have 5-6 that have dropped from there since the last update. Normally if I farm using all 80 sands, I will usually get at least one. I know not the greatest rate, but I have tried all different levels and this seems to be the best one for me. Hope that helps!