Ha ha, you are really the crusher of FallenAngel's dreams!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Somehow mid week I knew this was gonna happen, you just needed an excuse :p
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Ha ha, you are really the crusher of FallenAngel's dreams!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Somehow mid week I knew this was gonna happen, you just needed an excuse :p
Never poke a sleeping grizzly bear haha Fallen's day will come soon enough. This was more about showing how Prisoner is not deserving of the all mighty OP talk and maybe provide some more input for the devs. I was actually shocked at how little trouble I had with him after getting a little creative, I've never been without him since day 1 so always assumed he was a death sentence to face without him. 100% not the case. I did have to start using ability rotations I've never used and even some brand new abilities so it's been fun. But yeah I'm kinda surprised by it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bradata
Edit: and my defense is 4/10 for holds on my revenge list so it's not like it came crashing down either. all 4 different people so not a single frustrated user losing over and over edge case.
Np,felt kinda bad revenging u. Happy to help prove a point. Even if u did start at 5000,FallenAngel didn't...so case closed!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Actually just got back home & checked ranks. #1 & 2 no prisoner. Leaderboard must be bugged! Congrats...again,lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Someone gets it! Yeah the point is I was behind a considerable amount and came back quickly. I could do it from reset on if I wanted just the same. Fallen is right up there with Gmac as the most relentless and determined I've seen so far, so it was a worthy test. Respect bud.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentknight
This was my other back of the mind goal with 10k just so when/if the nerf happens people aren't like, Jofer only won before because of the Prisoner!!! blah blah blah
But it ain't over yet, maybe Fallen has a trick up his sleeve :)
Btw,FallenAngel is also a kickass trooper! U 2 Gmac!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
First off, I still think the prisoner deserves a magnificent nerf regardless of your little test run. Which is irrelevant, since you haven't went a full week without using him. And of course you are always going to be number 1 with or without the prisoner. Why? Because unlike the millions of people who have downloaded this game. Only you, are willing to spend hours a day fighting endlessly. Just to stay at number 1. Peep why pvp is not worth it...like seriously the arena has been out for about 2 months now and only you have been able 2 reach number 1. Again why? Because you choose to spend a infinite amount of ironite staying where you are. Vs those who don't... So keep that in mind...when you are fighting. Btw I guarantee you won't be number 1 without those refills, 😁😁Who would?!😁😁Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Well done Jofer!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
These tears are delicious.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelkelly
Lol! Mmm tears of infinite sadness! 😆Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
That one almost made my day :) ^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Out of curiosity Jofer, how are the typical taunt teams (blue bat, ssd, mummy, and either red pyro or troll) for you right now without a Prisoner? The blue bat nullifies using HH/troll or immunity talis, so I'm curious as to how you're approaching these teams. For me, if they go first, I generally have about a 40% chance to win depending on if RNGesus wants to dropkick me in the face or if he wants to be my friend for once. :p Sometimes, I don't even get a SINGLE turn in. Makes me glad Mummy is getting a much-needed nerf.
I'll give you my thoughts on Blue Bat after we're done :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
For some reason this quote popped up in my head, I need to watch Scarface...Quote:
Originally Posted by angelkelly
What you lookin' at? You all a bunch of fuckin' assholes. You know why? You don't have the guts to be what you wanna be. You need people like me. You need people like me so you can point your fuckin' fingers and say, "That's the bad guy." - Tony Montana
Really wish u'd quit doin that! Now i gotta watch that tonight. 'Say hello to my little friend!' Great movie!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Hey man!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Lots of class going after FallenAngel without the Prisoner :) And hell, you do adapt fast...
I hope you guys put on a show tomorrow, it should happen every Saturday...
And FallenAngel, come on, he was 11th by a point to SilentKinght one week, than next week I pushed him out of 5th final hours, but he never stops, and gets better every damn week. He a super player, If anyone deserves eternal other than you, he is the one.
For me, after I saw you erase SholinLondon 2k advantage AND put a 1k lead in like 4 or 5 hours I realized I could not compete with you. And when everybody showed theirs stats I saw the extra edge Prisoner owners had.
I believe one can play faster with him on offense, so I changed my focus from Arena results, to try and get him. But not to be, G/A souls from arena and trooper points, nautical souls... nothing :/
Anyways, perhaps I'm wrong, but after you guys are done tomorrow, maybe you could give us your thoughts on this matter (offense speed with and without Prisoner)
Wish you and FallenAngel a super Saturday! We'll be watching!
Cheers
Gmac
Did you forget that Fallen has gone without him?Quote:
Originally Posted by angelkelly
Jofer, you are the fucking man.
Great post. Awesome Jofer is taking on the challenge without a Prisoner - but Fallen Angel deserves a ton of respect - because he's never had the Prisoner and is always competitive.Quote:
Originally Posted by Gmac
Yeah, FallenAngel is a Monster, every week up there no matter what... can't do it myself.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicko
You too Nicko, great job every week on Arena by the way.
And here on the forum too... you hold us together.
Thank you.
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Originally Posted by Jofer16
This. Is. Awesome.
By the way, I want in on this weeks competition. I wasn't going to, but Jopher needs some friends up at the top. Currently 1171 in the rankings...
Too tired. @ 46 for now, but am getting rim-jobbed on D. Tomorrow...
Good luck with your grind today!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lord Schmeb
Your message storage is full :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicko
Thanks - I'm bad about deletingQuote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Cleared!
I'm old so I don't know how to do it, but right now I want to add the gif with the guy munching on the popcorn in the theater, watching all this trash talk going.
It's a game, but Damn are we passionate or what.
Happy Saturday all!
Cheers!
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Originally Posted by CanyptianFit
Good luck with the fight everyone!
Haha! Yes! Thriller!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB
Can't wait for the April update. Taunt teams are so damn depressing for me now lol. I just tap to fight them, see that I lose the coin toss, then go do something else while my team gets taunted to oblivion. Blue bat really did need to be changed. His current passive is worse than the Prisoner for me right now. At least Prisoner teams don't wipe out my immunity and shell talis.
Anyway, back to the Saturday PVPalooza. Good luck, everyone!
Ding ding ding! Winner! This was my biggest finding through all this, and I was shocked. Now that the meta has shifted to Talismans being more essential than passives, Blue Bat is the truely OP toon, Prisoner not in the slightest. I could only think up 1 team build to do well, you have to stack immunity like crazy, toons like Red Pyro that have a 3 round buff.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
I think most of the complaints from prisoner must come from Blue Bat users who don't realize this. He's the only easy counter where Prisoner has tons of possible teams that will take him down. So to Blue Bat users, I can see why they say this, he takes away that OP factor for them.
Now I do agree Prisoner dumbs the game down killing passives, but he's not even close to OP. He could use an adjustment to open the game up more but if this is coupled with any sort of nerf/overall power reduction, I'll be upset. Simply because it means the devs are giving into the mob.
Change his mechanics to open up more passives and create diversity, don't make him weaker. I've had zero issues facing Prisoner while I've not been using him and my point accumulation speed hasn't changed much. In some cases it's gotten even faster because I swapped him out for more overall damage so I'm killing stuff faster.
And I need to add, just got a rare G/A soul from Kingdom of the Sands normal secret. Don't remember the last time that happened!
I fully agree with your analysis, man. Hell, people were even rightly predicting that if the Prisoner got neutered via nerfs and the blue bat/DD remained untouched, that the blue bat/DD would become the next OP toon. You can't nerf one of those two without nerfing the other.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Side note: Jofer, I noticed that it said you were inactive for 2 days on the trooper list yesterday. Considering how you were actively PVPing like the terminator you are, this led me to theorize that maybe the trooper list only shows activity based on the last PVE run someone does.
Sparton, would you be able to confirm this if possible?
Good observation, and that would make sense, didn't do my dailies/secrets yesterday and maybe the night before. You might have just solved one of their bugs :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
Yeah, Rare Souls, Rare Gun/Assassin Souls, and even Skill Shards are all possible rewards from every secret location. They're just damn rare is all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Yeah, that's actually something that's been bothering me for a while. I've never been 100% sure if it was inaccurate or not, but what you and Jofer are describing means that whatever is tracking that is probably looking for some kind of action that not necessarily everyone will do each time they play the game. I'll make sure to pass that to the team when I'm back in the office on Monday.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
Wanted to add, also found Blue Bat is waaaay more dangerous than DD. Siege is tough enough, but if you're not prepared Blue Bats other moves like the AOE coupled with not being able to have void shields is like being tossed into the meat grinder.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
I feel sorry for people with no Prisoner against him. I've made sure to purchase every talisman available from the arena store so far, so can manage, but there's really zero counters for people that cant stack them to the sky. Blue Bat > Prisoner in a vacuum by a long shot.
Awesome! This will help move us one step closer to solving the Trooper activity issue.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB
Yeah man, blue bat teams sometimes make me want to chuck my phone out the window. It can be so frustrating watching helplessly as your team gets mutilated. Now I have to disconnect my emotions before PVPing so I don't blow up. :p Either that, or I need to do more pull-ups & push-ups after PVPing for a bit to de-stress haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
And 3 more rare souls! 1 in each of the underworld secrets, my lucky day :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB
Edit: and after reset ANOTHER G/A soul, wow.
Thus all the 'prisoner nerf is great but dont touch the AoP' posts. They think we're stupid...apparently some of us areQuote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Agreed with you, I'm out of discussion about this patch. But I miss what you said, I don't even remember someone complaining about the AoP nerf, the only Angel that people (including me) complained about the nerf was the AoF.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentknight
Good luck in the arena for all of you guys.
Cheers
Interesting observation about immunity. I was in Underworld taking on Blue Bats and brought my Green Droid since I know nerfs are coming. Wanted to test the waters. His immunity from talismans gets squashed - and then he had to cast his shield every turn because the duration of his shield was cut in half. Red Pyro doesn't have a shield - but his immunity certainly looks like a better bet because you can get a couple rounds out if it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Contrary to the complaining, I definitely don't think the Blue Bat is dead with the upcoming nerf. Once second round hits - with likely little damage to either side thanks to Troll shields and Shell talismans - he'll be a real pain to face
Agreed with you, some of the new shilds to, like the thorns, cyclone and even the void. With some variety of toons and mix on damage types (not only true) maybe this shields will be a little hard to face.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nicko
Just at 1st glanceQuote:
Originally Posted by HomemLivre