April 2017 Tuning Discussion - PRELIMINARY

[Lord Schmeb]

By the way, I want in on this weeks competition. I wasn't going to, but Jopher needs some friends up at the top. Currently 1171 in the rankings...

Too tired. @ 46 for now, but am getting rim-jobbed on D. Tomorrow...

[Jofer16]

By the way, I want in on this weeks competition. I wasn't going to, but Jopher needs some friends up at the top. Currently 1171 in the rankings...

Too tired. @ 46 for now, but am getting rim-jobbed on D. Tomorrow...

Good luck with your grind today!

[Jofer16]

Great post. Awesome Jofer is taking on the challenge without a Prisoner - but Fallen Angel deserves a ton of respect - because he's never had the Prisoner and is always competitive.

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[Nicko]

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Thanks - I'm bad about deleting

Cleared!

[CanyptianFit]

I'm old so I don't know how to do it, but right now I want to add the gif with the guy munching on the popcorn in the theater, watching all this trash talk going.

It's a game, but Damn are we passionate or what.

Happy Saturday all!

Cheers!

[Sparton_LOTB]

I'm old so I don't know how to do it, but right now I want to add the gif with the guy munching on the popcorn in the theater, watching all this trash talk going.

Good luck with the fight everyone!

[Jofer16]

Good luck with the fight everyone!

Haha! Yes! Thriller!

[Tritium]

Can't wait for the April update. Taunt teams are so damn depressing for me now lol. I just tap to fight them, see that I lose the coin toss, then go do something else while my team gets taunted to oblivion. Blue bat really did need to be changed. His current passive is worse than the Prisoner for me right now. At least Prisoner teams don't wipe out my immunity and shell talis.

Anyway, back to the Saturday PVPalooza. Good luck, everyone!

[Jofer16]

Can't wait for the April update. Taunt teams are so damn depressing for me now lol. I just tap to fight them, see that I lose the coin toss, then go do something else while my team gets taunted to oblivion. Blue bat really did need to be changed. His current passive is worse than the Prisoner for me right now. At least Prisoner teams don't wipe out my immunity and shell talis.

Anyway, back to the Saturday PVPalooza. Good luck, everyone!

Ding ding ding! Winner! This was my biggest finding through all this, and I was shocked. Now that the meta has shifted to Talismans being more essential than passives, Blue Bat is the truely OP toon, Prisoner not in the slightest. I could only think up 1 team build to do well, you have to stack immunity like crazy, toons like Red Pyro that have a 3 round buff.

I think most of the complaints from prisoner must come from Blue Bat users who don't realize this. He's the only easy counter where Prisoner has tons of possible teams that will take him down. So to Blue Bat users, I can see why they say this, he takes away that OP factor for them.

Now I do agree Prisoner dumbs the game down killing passives, but he's not even close to OP. He could use an adjustment to open the game up more but if this is coupled with any sort of nerf/overall power reduction, I'll be upset. Simply because it means the devs are giving into the mob.

Change his mechanics to open up more passives and create diversity, don't make him weaker. I've had zero issues facing Prisoner while I've not been using him and my point accumulation speed hasn't changed much. In some cases it's gotten even faster because I swapped him out for more overall damage so I'm killing stuff faster.

And I need to add, just got a rare G/A soul from Kingdom of the Sands normal secret. Don't remember the last time that happened!

[Tritium]

Ding ding ding! Winner! This was my biggest finding through all this, and I was shocked. Now that the meta has shifted to Talismans being more essential than passives, Blue Bat is the truely OP toon, Prisoner not in the slightest. I could only think up 1 team build to do well, you have to stack immunity like crazy, toons like Red Pyro that have a 3 round buff.

I think most of the complaints from prisoner must come from Blue Bat users who don't realize this. He's the only easy counter where Prisoner has tons of possible teams that will take him down. So to Blue Bat users, I can see why they say this, he takes away that OP factor for them.

Now I do agree Prisoner dumbs the game down killing passives, but he's not even close to OP. He could use an adjustment to open the game up more but if this is coupled with any sort of nerf/overall power reduction, I'll be upset. Simply because it means the devs are giving into the mob.

Change his mechanics to open up more passives and create diversity, don't make him weaker. I've had zero issues facing Prisoner while I've not been using him and my point accumulation speed hasn't changed much. In some cases it's gotten even faster because I swapped him out for more overall damage so I'm killing stuff faster.

And I need to add, just got a rare G/A soul from Kingdom of the Sands normal secret. Don't remember the last time that happened!

I fully agree with your analysis, man. Hell, people were even rightly predicting that if the Prisoner got neutered via nerfs and the blue bat/DD remained untouched, that the blue bat/DD would become the next OP toon. You can't nerf one of those two without nerfing the other.

Side note: Jofer, I noticed that it said you were inactive for 2 days on the trooper list yesterday. Considering how you were actively PVPing like the terminator you are, this led me to theorize that maybe the trooper list only shows activity based on the last PVE run someone does.

Sparton, would you be able to confirm this if possible?