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And why don't just ban the prisoner of the arena and let him alone ? :) At least we can still use him in pve (for the dungeons) ^^
Make his passive as a beneficial effect (counter by immunity) AND works for 50% is too huge!
One or the other would have been a correct adjustement, not ?
(i don't care about use him in pvp, i have other characters with great skills to test in pvp! I just don't want seeing the most valuable character in the game to become a shitty one lol)
Cuz if they ever want to introduce new toons/bosses which would hopefully be PvP playable ur gunna need him. Big mistake! IMO. Introduce an anti-Prisoner or others with same passive. Expand not castrate!Quote:
Originally Posted by surfingwithdje
Well, it looks like there will be a new sheriff in town and his name is Death Dog. Basically it's gonna be the same shit but we'll call it with different name. At least I got my hopes up for the BNW, it was said that the new talismans in store will be gone after April 8th so BNW will come soon after that ;)
Just realized this also affects his future basic, Calibrate, as well. :SQuote:
Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB
Do any other toons have this issue as well where 3-tap basic attacks aren't flagged to trigger talisman augments? I fear he may not be the only one.
Think Carriage Rider Eddie is the same. Quit trying to keep track of all the bugs...too many. Just playin with what they give us,good or bad.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
Sparton himself said that this one would be an easy fix due to it merely being flagged incorrectly. I'd rather do my part as a player and fan to help the devs make this game better for all of us wherever I can. If all of us were to stop reporting the bugs we find, the game wouldn't get any better ─ and nobody would benefit from that.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentknight
Calibrate isn't supposed to trigger augments; only basic attack skills (ie stuff that doesn't cost power/fury and does damage to enemies) are supposed to be able to trigger augments. That includes defensive augments like Vanish and Void Shield.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
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Originally Posted by Tritium
It's very possible we've misflagged a few more for Eddies due to how they have their additional skills. If you do notice any more specific cases, do let me know as you've done here and/or post in the Bug Reports subforum, because this specific kind of bug is easy to fix when identified.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
Thanks again for pointing out what you have!
Well after reporting a pretty significant scoring bug & being ignored... Also play alot at work & don't have time to find the 'right' spot. Might as well have a direct line to supportQuote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
Ah, that makes a lot of sense. Thanks for the heads up!Quote:
Originally Posted by Sparton_LOTB
Well, something I've noticed is that the devs seem to respond most in these game update discussion threads, but I have no doubt that they still actively monitor the bugs section (even if they may not directly respond to a thread there). Customer support also is a good line to use. If you really want to reach them about an important bug, it probably wouldn't hurt to post in both places on the forums and to send an email to CS (yes, it's a lot of work to do, but we reap the benefits when the bugs are fixed).Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentknight
Also, they're much more likely to respond to you if you are kind and respectful to them. If you haven't noticed by now, there are a small (but vocal) minority of certain players here who consistently take a venomous tone with the devs (I won't put anyone on blast...although Lord Schmeb definitely knows who I'm referring to here haha), and as such, they hardly ever get a response. Nobody goes to work wanting to mess up and disappoint their customers, so there's no point in pointing any vitriol at the people who want to make us happy.
Spartan, The basic attack of the navigator "Charted Course" does not proc talismans, is this because it does no damage?Quote:
It's very possible we've misflagged a few more for Eddies due to how they have their additional skills. If you do notice any more specific cases, do let me know as you've done here and/or post in the Bug Reports subforum, because this specific kind of bug is easy to fix when identified.
Thanks again for pointing out what you have!
I really wish that AI would change on that. When Auto playing he seems to only do that move or the fury move. He must have the same AI as the mummy. He really does not need to do chartered course 3 times in a row, I would rather him do a little damage.
Totally agree, Tritium! We're all (players and devs) on the same team here, and we all benefit when the game succeeds.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
druid138-6195
Correct.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shifter
We have identified an issue which caused him to use Charted Course frequently, and that will be fixed so he favours "Landfall" (his present basic) more in the next update.Quote:
Originally Posted by Shifter
As I said,not alot of time. I.E. last post I was waiting for x-rays. Also feel devs need to be thick skinned considering the state of the game! Myself,and I know I'm not alone in this, I find 'those' type of people entertaining! Will only contact support if I get screwed outta rewards or something. Bigger problems to worry about!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
any plans to show gunner CotD some love in the future? always been my 2nd favorite character behind prisoner and he's the original CotD as well... "black holes in his golden stare" :)
"God knows he wants to go home!"Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
He is pretty sick as is, wish I had him! One of my troopers champs
Got a feeling we may have the same Trooper (ID starts Black)? I only added this Trooper on Thursday but after using that toon a couple of times I am impressed. I actually have one as well which I could shard to max right now. Not sure on a talisman build though. Seen someone say to put 3x Freeze and 3x Invisiblility bulwark on it. Trooper has something totally different. Anybody got any tips of a decent load out for it?Quote:
Originally Posted by R1ck
Just saw this. AoF is getting nerfed again? On the other hand, happy to see the "tauntfest" will soon end...
Nothing about what have to be done but...
Seriously... How would you had react if back in October someone had told you that the humble (& almost spam) Mummy would be nerfed because of his OPness... :)
^^^Doesn't say much,but when he does...Quote:
Originally Posted by Sag7272
Sparton's original bulletin points state a need for more diversity in the Arena. This tuning update seems very flawed in achieving that goal. Nerfing characters is unnecessary and unfair. The problem with the Arena is the Arena.
The Arena is repetitive due to Defense requires 4 characters. A way to achieve more variety and balance (since AI is equally unreliable for everyone) is to let players choose 2 Eddies and 6 support characters. The AI would randomly pick an Eddie and 3 teammates at the start of the battle. This will at least add variety and give reason to use characters otherwise not being used on defense.
Another option for Offense is to implement the system of only being able to use a character once in the Arena until game does the daily reset. Inventory can hold 100+ characters. Make skill shards easier to get.
More skill shards and limiting repetition of character usage eliminates need to nerf characters and gives incentive to build up more and different characters.
So I like some of these points you make but...Quote:
Originally Posted by RobG-9641
1) they have made skill shards easier to get than they were a month or so ago... PvP (4 skill shards per month) and Sacrifice (two full vortex meters have given me 8 skill shards since release)
2) I think they might just be trying to add a second Eddie to PvP hence the "not supposed to be released" Eddie switching. At least possibly toying with the idea.
3) limiting the characters you can use in PvP would be like NerFing the feature instead of individual chars IMO. Balancing them (or at least attempting to) does seem like a better way to get more chars into PvP to me.
4) it has been said by others that NerFing chars is pretty standard issue stuff in games like this but it's not nearly as bad in LotB. Now even though I dislike all the changes to toons without the ability to remove skill shards, I'm willing to at least wait to see how these changes work out.
5) I personally don't need incentive to max different toons, that's why I play the game..
SWGOH does subtle nerfs(not castrations) & even when they do the player is given the choice of having shards returned! 113 characters & counting,all with totally different moves. Easy to collect EVERY toon! Farming is 100x faster & it needs to be as there is so much more to do. It's also E.A.,Disney & Lucasfilm so bigger team & alot more $ behind it.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmxiii
I'm telling u,improving the A.I. would solve alot!!! I guarantee that more characters are being used on offence cuz the player controls em! Stupid A.I. causes limited defence!
That's the main issue here! all the other games i've played were run by people who knew what they were doing and, no matter how ballsy the adjustments were, the players always admitted that they were necessary. and even then a reset is always provided.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentknight
This "beta test like" game first lets the players discover the bugs/exploits/OP chars and then the team reacts in a panic without giving much thought to what the consequences will be.
This has been the issue ever since NF took over (remember fierce talismans?)...
if these unreasonable nerfs continue, we will end up with 200 characters with the same stats,same skills,same talismans,just different names. and god forbid someone finds a toon who is better! the nerf bat will take care of it immediately!
way to go...NOT
Yep,Death Dog & possibly Warrior Troll are next. The ones that don't have them will whine & the bat will come out!Quote:
Originally Posted by Mizrael
Almost 40 years of playing video games & I've never come across such a controversial character. Would love to know who's idea The Prisoner was cuz they deserve a raise...better yet,a promotion! And now they've ruined it! Congrats to all the headhunters!!!
Question on death dog, what am I missing with the expected OPness? I've fought this toon a bunch in arena and it seems super lackluster. So it gets a passive to remove "up to" 2 opponents beneficials, so it seems just a desperate RNG attempt, doesn't seem to provide much else useful utility? Fill me in.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentknight
Once he's charged...deadly!!! Plus reduce beneficial effects. Not my 1st choice but...only toon that kills my toons in PvEQuote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Makes sense i guess, I just tend to stay away from toons that need setup in arena, too many ways things can go bad when you're facing quality teams. I like reliability over all.Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentknight
Now warrior troll is another story as he provides great utility all around. 3 warrior troll team would be so fun haha Shields for days.
My feelings exactly but we'll c! Don't like any toons that don't attack all the time,except SSD,unless it's a heal. Also he's somewhat of a glass cannonQuote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
I can think of a few off the top of my head real quick, meta destroyers:Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentknight
SWGOH - Rey. She single handily made them change the entire meta, they dared not nerf her because it's REY, sw fans would lose their minds. Remember when they got lazy because the meta was all messed up and just added a 2nd health bar? Yeah that's because if Rey's multiple attacks kicked in, good bye to half the other team.
World of Warcraft - pyroblast fire mage. 1 shot any character in the game, not much else to say haha. the crying on this would fill an ocean.
Destiny - more of a combination of gear + skill but outcry was just the same. shotgun + slide + shot to the face. Super unfair, by the time the opponent saw you and fired, you slid underneath the shot and 1 shotted them. Should have seen some of the ridiculous kill/death ratios put up.
But yeah I kinda agree, it's a good thing. that's what makes the meta search fun, every game needs it or it'd be boring as shit.
LOL,u play everything? Only played SWGOH & not that much...no time! This game takes up all spare time!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Oh man, Rey was so fun. I focused heavily on her around the time she came out and she paid dividends in the arena. I still wish that game had a single-player only option because using her was so fun that I'd hop right back in again ─ if I knew I wouldn't have to compete in the ridiculously competitive arena.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
According to a buddy @ work they've sped it up quite a bit. Had to,too much to do!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
Ddog with AGS and WTroll is one hit win in PVE. His Charge mixed with maxed true damage chars is lights out. In PvP he's a glass cannon if his team goes second... first target for Prisoner. If the tables are turned, he turns Chuck into his prison bitch lol (may be Chucks fate regardless). If you have a char that creates power like AG or Soldier, his Charge can happen first round and wipes out teams as he also removes first round bene fx like troll shields and immunity, etc.... that last part will change soon.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
^^This LOL^^Quote:
Originally Posted by Silentknight
Where do you find the time Jofer?! You're a madman bro... forgot all about Heroes until I realized it was taking up space on my sim card and deleted it lol... it took 0.5 seconds to pick between Maiden and Star Wars. Do you still play that game too?
No lol i don't play any of these anymore. I play a game till it bores me, each one of the above went through changes that made me get disinterested.Quote:
Originally Posted by mjmxiii
Jofer needs a mancave like what Sidney has ─ only his should be dedicated to gaming! xDQuote:
Originally Posted by mjmxiii
Come to think of it, that'd be sick in general. ;)
Oh I have one. mostly filled with 80s/90s stuff, original Garbage Pail Kids art, comic book stuff, etc :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
Shoulda tossed someone & accepted ur request. Then I'd have had the top 4,lmao!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
For sure Tritium that would be sick! Just noticed you're over 10k in VP Jofer lol 😆 No wonder you're answering questions on the forum.... week 7 (or 8?) pretty much locked up.... go Nicko lol!Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
Was my dedication to Prisoner, check my PvP discussion thread lolQuote:
Originally Posted by mjmxiii