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I've never gotten any acknowledgement on any of my posts. So, I'm pretty much done with bug reporting. I agree that they need to do a lot more testing before releasing the updates. The one at the beginning of February had my RTTH Eddie killing himself, and if he didn't do it when my SGS healed he'd apparently pull all the HP from poor old RTTH Eddie. That part at least got fixed, but even more bugs introduced with each new update.
Probably forgot to say 'pretty please' or 'pass the lube'!Quote:
Originally Posted by Askora
Something like that. I'm not gonna let it get to me though. Getting burned out anyway and nothing new doesn't help. I've played religiously for the past 4 months and just tired at this point.
Yeah man, join the club!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Askora
I know. A lot of the people in the forum have been playing far longer than I have. Not sure if I have that kind of fortitude. Just playing troopers seems like a chore nowadays, and not knowing what bugs I have to face in pvp makes things even worse.
7 months here. Just about reached my limit! On a serious note, if u do want a response to something make sure u put it in the 'right' spot. Apparently that's pretty important around here. More important than let's say...fixing bugs!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by Askora
I've posted in the update threads. I've sent emails, which at least get me a pleasant thank you. Doesn't seem to make a difference.
Yeah, Leviathan/Michelle is great! Bout the only positive I can speak of. Probably cuz she gets soooo much practice! Post in Bug Reports.Quote:
Originally Posted by Askora
If I post another one.
Lol, join the club again!Quote:
Originally Posted by Askora
Cancerbero not apply inmunity in first turn of the battle
lol new red talismans are quite worthless. visions is stealing the buff every single time. with everybody and his/her cat is using visions they doesn't make much sense.
Thank you Gmac and congrats for an excellent win vs me, it was a great race! Long time since I had this much fun playing LOTB :cool: Lets do it again some time :) By the time we reached PVP reset I had a 184 win streak, which is for me amazing. Never had this high win streak b4. I also was attacked alot, especially the last hours b4 reset that kept dragging me down... But I don't mind, ending 5 or 6 or 57 dosent matter for me, I play for fun! :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Gmac
And congrats to my troopers that ended top 3!
No information about the new talismans? The ingame infos are...not sufficient!
Hey man, did no realize you were already a forum member.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadTaste
184 win streak? wow, I can't do it at the moment. had a 80+ and slauki put me to rest.
I was really focused last 2 hours, you are a true warrior.
Congrats Enti on Eternal, you really deserve it :)
I had some fun with them last night. Was expirimenting with some new teams working with both new sets. I think I lost to BENGIO like 4 times in a row playing around haha. The counters can be really cool on the right characters. Still fine tuning but it's promising so far. Can't really rely on testing team defense with expirimenting, I'll usually just jump into arena and then fine tune when I lose for whatever caused it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kutte
I want to know too.Quote:
Originally Posted by URock
Could somebody explains the new red and blue talismans?
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Originally Posted by fred10141988
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No video necessary, I can explain it, working as intended.Quote:
Originally Posted by angelkelly
Sounds like you're using AoE attacks which are also hitting Hellhound. it's who is attacked, not who is targeted when you do said attack. Reflect shields work the same way, if you have a shield up that bounces back damage, it's going to trigger counter attacks against you. Once there's multiple sets of these available AoE/shield reflect teams are gonna get murdered by them.
Guessing they did it to weaken the AoE/shield meta, my Samurai was flying around like a madman last night haha
Is the revenge attack or the counter strike a "perfect" hit or is it random?Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Could a revenge attack trigger an effect from a talisman like blind, energy, stun, freeze and that sort? Did you notice any of this? Maybe the devs can clarify this - thanks in advance.
Seems buggy (surprise surprise haha), need to play around with it more today regarding talisman procs but usually abilities didn't seem to proc of basic, my Samurai would counter, it would say extra turn for his basic kicking in but then wouldn't attack again. And in another scenario with a different character I ran into cases where the counter seemed to get stuck in an infinite loop, the toon kept countering over and over until almost 2 enemies were dead.Quote:
Originally Posted by hold
Cheers man ... that sounds interesting. I wonder what happens if both teams have a combination of those strike talismans and / or void shields up. Autoplay until first team down? :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
I bought the fierce and the safeguard but don't want to buy the the skilled - I rather wait for another week as I can't find skilled talismans any useful. Same with the sorcery ... don't want to waste my few iron coins :)
Yeah I just bought them all to test, and you're exactly right. Once there's multiple sets of these available youre gonna see people crying about them. Think of a team with 3 sets of these against an AoE team. You could get like 10 attacks against you before the other team even takes a turn. Throw in reflect shields and things get crazy fast. Looking forward to the crying posts in a few weeks haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by hold
Counter abilities are a common thing in other PvP games, strictly to target AoE teams, that's the best way around them, make them kill themselves! Looks like they did it here to also target reflect shields. If teams have tons of shields and counters it's back to the taunt/autoplay fest. People will just sit back and watch each other's toons counter all day long instead of playing.
Any talismans with buffs are useless against VE teams.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kutte
These new talismans look quite appealing, but this^ is what concerns me. They'd be a huge investment to lose right away due to VE (who is all you encounter at the top). Guess it's another scenario of high risk/reward. VE has single-handidly changed the meta. Thank god that ugly gray bastard can't hit for shit haha.Quote:
Originally Posted by R1ck
I was pretty bug free yesterday but I just had a couple in a row against mkultra. Both of us had counter talismans so maybe that's why. I killed his AoF with Samurai and it slowly sunk into the ground and my ability icons disappeared. Beware using these things, it's like trying to wield chaos lol. My Samurai and his AoF countered each other back and forth like 3 times. This mechanic is gonna be AWFUL when people are rocking tons of these. Putting the logic in to counter a counter is a terrible idea, if people thought taunting autoplay was bad before, oh man these things can run on infinite loops the way they set it up lol
Haha, I for one welcome our infinite loop battle overlords. Buy up the popcorn now for next week after reset!Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Indeed, I'll be playing to "Can I Play with Madness" from now on lol. Wish I could sit in on some of these design discussions by whoever is deciding how to implement them. Being able to counter a counter is just fundamentally flawed in PvP due to that reason, RNG shines and it's a loop till death, thats why good PvP games dont allow it. It's like these guys have literally never played a PvP game in their lives and are trying to create one for the very first time. Stock up on your counter talismans, this is gonna get crazy :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Tritium
I am just going to classify this Talisman as a 'bad idea.' If you want to take advantage of the counter strike, the player should be using the specific Lord of Light for this. Its like the developers are trying to take a group of toons' ability and try to give it to an already dominate character. There may be a specific BNW character that would minimize this ability.Quote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
Just had a fight against a player who had a set of these strike talismans on his Prisoner. My first move was to use Take with my VE and in return he instantly stunned my VE for two turns. My VE are equipped with immunity talismans.Quote:
Originally Posted by R1ck
Odoyle already mentioned that, like I said, AoE attacks are gonna get wrecked in a week when multiple toons can wear these. And when both teams have them, back and forth all day. Arena's about to get a lot more broken.Quote:
Originally Posted by BadTaste
Hi guys,
Thanks for posting details about the weirdness you are seeing with the new talismans. I'll explain what should and shouldn't be happening with them for reference:
- Counter Attacks should be able to proc skill effects, including Talisman on-hit effects (i.e. Stun, Blind, Vamp, etc.)
- A character with counter who takes damage from a counter attack or revenge proc should not trigger a counter attack.
- Damage over time should not trigger a counter attack
We'll take note of the issues posted in this thread and prioritize getting a fix out for them. Do let us know if you see any other strange behavior you think may be related to their functionality.
-Kaz
Thanks for letting us know, it might just be AoF, I noticed a lot of weirdness when using that specific toon with counter when attacking with it too.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaz_LOTB
Thank you for the info.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaz_LOTB
Just to be clear, the skill effect used with counter attacks will override Immunity talismans?
bingo!!!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by jofer16
How about why immunity & shell only work 75% of the time. They're not being removed,they aren't even there at the start of battle!Quote:
Originally Posted by Kaz_LOTB
AoF is granting multiple extra turns,even b4 new talismansQuote:
Originally Posted by Jofer16
I love the logic of these developers!
Something gets nerfed because they think it's overperforming and with the next update they release something 10x worse. it's been the case ever since the first AoF nerf which brought the multi fire talisman proc, which created the "firestarter" WGS. then they nerfed CG and released GCR...and the list could go on all the way to mummy vs VE as the most recent "tuning"
the first thing which i thought when i saw these new talismans was "not a good idea!". they will turn into a devastating weapon in the wrong hands. so far this passive only belonged to useless characters but opening it to all is just not wise. plus you let it trigger talisman effects? even worse idea...(are NF seriously such noobs?!)
glad that at least the endless loop isn't intentional, just another bug in the collection.
but seriously guys: if you want to create some balance you need to step up your designer ideas a notch
By the way PVP store for souls and skillshard still locked here. It was bad before, now we go for new records.
Yikes, I saw the Prisoner + Strike talismans combo as well. Being able to counter and stun for 2 turns (!!) is ridiculously OP. I'm beginning to agree with everyone who has said that these new strike talismans are a bad idea. The regen ones are defensive, so no qualms there, but counter attack for every toon is a HORRIBLE idea. I can already imagine the pain of a full red team with strike talismans...no bueno. It's a cool idea in theory and definitely shows creativity, but it's a bad idea in practice. :\