April 19th 2017 Update Discussion

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Originally Posted by Jofer16

Welcome to my PvE face melting team since day 1 :) Built a team with him/wicker where I can get his fury off turn 1 every wave in dungeons. Haven't done much post buff, but I could pull of like 50,000+ damage samurai furys with the right setup/combos before the buffs. Super fun. He seems to shine more in PvE.

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Yeah he is my day to day guy in PvE too - he is just a very big hitter and when I have coupled him with Wicker or Nomad in PvE he has been brutal and even more so today - he is a monster for sure but he can be taken out by greens if set up right. I have used my Nomad a few times in PVP and he is decent but again so many blue teams that he can get sqished - my PVE team was always very Warrior based - I went for months with Sam, Nomad, Rocket Dog/Hell Hound and Troll - very little could worry that team other than LOL X against Magus.

My Gimp forgot how to prison. I rarely see a stun now, none from the last 6 attacks made by him. That's 2.77% chance to occur - lucky me

Hmm, I have the feeling that I'm back in the blackhole of attack list.

I'm #70 without any defense since the update. (13h!)
I will see when number of attacks reach number of defense.
For now, 146 attacks for 155 defenses.

Amid the bugs, I have to agree that one thing that was improved was the matchmaking. I started a climb on Tuesday/Wednesday and throughout 15 clears I did not get one person over 2100 to attack (there were at least 20 players over that). Since the update every list has people from the top 25 including usually one in the top 5 now. Had I known they were going to put this in, I'd have waited to make a run lol! Anyways, over 60 attacks suffered since the update confirms the lists have been fixed for for the top players not showing up.

Hopefully this didn't just shift the matchmaking bug elsewhere.

Uninstalled and reinstalled on my phone. No change. If not connected to wi-fi, every time I open the game it says connect to wi-fi to download new game content.

Another prisoner fight this morning, absolutely no talisman effects proc'ed. It's been that way since the April 11th update.

Void shields only reflect damage about 50% of the time on either offense or defense. Unless mummy, CG, GRE, etc. have the occasional true damage instead of magic damage. Am I missing something?

After playing the secret levels, they still show as open unless I close and restart the game.

My CG killed a GCotD in pvp while he was invisible.

Attacks continue to climb and will see if they stop when it reaches the number of attacks I've made.

Got several wickerdog queens in the book of souls, when it shows the icons for the characters she has the wickerdog king icon in book of souls. Cosmetic, but still a new bug.

Yeah - for the last two weeks those of us at the top have been blessed with the attack bug.

Now attacks are going through the roof and so far I've dropped 450 points since last night as almost every attack results in a 20 point loss.

Honestly - still sorting out feelings. Certainly the way it was is not fair. But after enjoying that pleasant PvP experience - and then back to this - it leaves a pretty sour taste.

Frankly put - the two steps forward three steps back sucks. This point system is psychologically erosive.

The developers know this - yet it remains.

I have enough Iron Coins to buy stuff for a long, long time and while it's nice to get the extra shards from placing every week, at this point in my opinion it's just not worth it

I have the next week off and still may continue to play in the arena - it becomes a habit - but at this point that's all it is. It's not fun. And that's a shame because it could be.

And it's a habit I think I'm ready to break.

Sorry for the negative post - but just not feeling good about this game right now.

I just had a fight against a team in the arena. The battle started normal and he killed some of my toons and I killed some of his. Then he only had his GCR left with half health and a full Titan shield. It was my turn and I was going for the final kill. Then to my surprise his GCR did not take any damage! Neither his shield or healt went down no matter how hard or often I hit him. He was just untouhcable! I tried for many rounds, but nothing affected him. He just went on as normal and reveived his teammates. I killed the reveived toons, but not GCR. Unfortulately I did not have any toons who could try to remove or steal beneficial effects alive at that point so I can't tell if that could have rescued me. Eventually I had to take a draw to end the fight...
I read from the ingame update notice under known bugs that GCR's passive either never works or always works. But that is noted under the Prisoner which I don't have.

EDIT: In the end I only had the Nomad left, and since I only had one toon left it could be that GCR's shield was reset immediately after my hit which would explain why I could not see that the shield was taking any damage. If this is the case then you are pretty much fu**ed if you have only one toon left against GCR even if that toon is a hard hitter like the Nomad...

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Yeah - for the last two weeks those of us at the top have been blessed with the attack bug.

Now attacks are going through the roof and so far I've dropped 450 points since last night as almost every attack results in a 20 point loss.

Honestly - still sorting out feelings. Certainly the way it was is not fair. But after enjoying that pleasant PvP experience - and then back to this - it leaves a pretty sour taste.

Frankly put - the two steps forward three steps back sucks. This point system is psychologically erosive.

The developers know this - yet it remains.

I have enough Iron Coins to buy stuff for a long, long time and while it's nice to get the extra shards from placing every week, at this point in my opinion it's just not worth it

I have the next week off and still may continue to play in the arena - it becomes a habit - but at this point that's all it is. It's not fun. And that's a shame because it could be.

And it's a habit I think I'm ready to break.

Sorry for the negative post - but just not feeling good about this game right now.

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Have to say I agree with the statement here. With the recent changes defense holds have gone waaay down (not that my defense has ever been that good) and I feel like the only successful holds I get are because someone's game crashed (experienced 15+ crashes personally since the update, thankfully most were not in PVP). The current point system requires attacking 2x as much as you are attacked (since attack win is +12, defense loss is -20) and then attack some more to cover the revenges that result from you getting back to where you started. If the algorithm is ideally supposed to have attacks = defenses then I feel like the situation will not improve.

I'll probably go back to just PVPing for fun after this week, Iron Coins are not an issue and the rewards for placing top 10 in the current system are not worth the time/investment.

I will say that I am seeing a fair bit of creativity in the teams I face nowadays, which is a welcome change from what it was a month ago.

With the point system, trying to go to a 1/1 Attack vs Defense just makes it more of a joke. Imagine you make 10 attacks. Now you get attacked 10 times and revenged 10 times for a net loss. Now you get 10 free attacks to try and climb back to exactly where you were (if you're lucky), some of those losses might have been 20 point losses and you may end up with a list where the most you can hope for is a 14 point gain per battle. Fight 10 more to try and climb and you just repeat the pattern.

I can say with the huge number of attacks I've had, that pvp has gotten to be less challenging. Far fewer bugged prisoners to deal with. Even faced one team with just an Eddie for defense, totally destroyed another without even using all my toons. At least it makes mining for iron coins simpler, and my defense ratio goes up considerably.

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Originally Posted by Nicko

Yeah - for the last two weeks those of us at the top have been blessed with the attack bug.

Now attacks are going through the roof and so far I've dropped 450 points since last night as almost every attack results in a 20 point loss.

Honestly - still sorting out feelings. Certainly the way it was is not fair. But after enjoying that pleasant PvP experience - and then back to this - it leaves a pretty sour taste.

Frankly put - the two steps forward three steps back sucks. This point system is psychologically erosive.

The developers know this - yet it remains.

I have enough Iron Coins to buy stuff for a long, long time and while it's nice to get the extra shards from placing every week, at this point in my opinion it's just not worth it

I have the next week off and still may continue to play in the arena - it becomes a habit - but at this point that's all it is. It's not fun. And that's a shame because it could be.

And it's a habit I think I'm ready to break.

Sorry for the negative post - but just not feeling good about this game right now.

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Only last two? No my friend a lot longer. I'm sorry to hear it gets to you. But wellcome to the game people were playing for 2 and a half months now. And believe me those under top 25 know and shared the pain you are experiencing now. Wait a few days, I'm sure it will sort out when this confusion rush is done.