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[Sag7272]

In contrast to these disloyal players it is very cool to see players who realize that these problems have not yet been solved and do not abuse these tricks like you, Nicko and Sag (besides others that certainly do).

Tanks but having been on the dark side already I can say that those mainly exist because of the point system who suck real bad, once high in ranking everyone wants a try for points & this setup prevent that to some extent...
Can hardly throw rocks to those who can't afford to go otherwise, it can make a huge difference in standing as for now, their time is counted unless they work something else don't worry..

[HomemLivre]

Tanks but having been on the dark side already I can say that those mainly exist because of the point system who suck real bad, once high in ranking everyone wants a try for points & this setup prevent that to some extent...
Can hardly throw rocks to those who can't afford to go otherwise, it can make a huge difference in standing as for now, their time is counted unless they work something else don't worry..

I agree with you, those mainly exist because of the point system, you are completely correct. But I reuse the same examples (you and Nicko) continue in 2 and 3 position in the ranking even leaving the use of builds like these.

[Sag7272]

I agree with you, those mainly exist because of the point system, you are completely correct. But I reuse the same examples (you and Nicko) continue in 2 and 3 position in the ranking even leaving the use of builds like these.

Because we can afford it, don't know for Nicko, but if our hold rate had fell to the ground,
I don't think the experiment would had last for long in complete honesty..

There's gonna be a major shift in team building when next update goes live & hopefully many who now don't stand a chance will start to rise up the standing & new team strategy will emerge "unfair" teams will be a thing of the past like the old days of far west & no one will miss them

[HomemLivre]

Because we can afford it, don't know for Nicko, but if our hold rate had fell to the ground,
I don't think the experiment would had last for long in complete honesty..

There's gonna be a major shift in team building when next update goes live & hopefully many who now don't stand a chance will start to rise up the standing & new team strategy will emerge "unfair" teams will be a thing of the past like the old days of far west & no one will miss them

I fully agree! Lets not miss then lol

[slauki]

I'm disgusted with players who continue to use broken teams combining perfect hit with multi hitters + frozen / stun talis ...
This puts an end to competitiveness and spoils the game.
Players I've seen using these builds often:
- caretakerii
- Demoonchild
- Go80sMetal
- metaljosh
- zamasu
... and a few others including top 10 players ...

I can not wait for this long awaited patch to arrive. It would be fair for players who abused such broken builds to be punished in any way since everyone here knows that these combinations are not working as they should be.

Please Sparton, would you know when the patch with these fixes will come out?

i appreciate you fairness, since you don't try to take advantage of the broken freezes in combination with the desert marauder...



yeah you could use your unsharded gunner golden son, but TBH you also try to exploit the broken mechanics. i'm with gmac hate the game, not the players.

[Hypnos]

i appreciate you fairness, since you don't try to take advantage of the broken freezes in combination with the desert marauder...



yeah you could use your unsharded gunner golden son, but TBH you also try to exploit the broken mechanics. i'm with gmac hate the game, not the players.

Well to be fair slauki, that team is easily countered by a hellhound since he has no prisoner.

But I agree in that it is futile for someone to complain about how certain team strategies are being "exploited" given how competitive PvP currently is.

If you want to make a complaint - contact the game team instead of expecting everyone to choose their teams from an ethical point of view.

[HomemLivre]

i appreciate you fairness, since you don't try to take advantage of the broken freezes in combination with the desert marauder...



yeah you could use your unsharded gunner golden son, but TBH you also try to exploit the broken mechanics. i'm with gmac hate the game, not the players.

The problem with DM applies with the use of 3-hit characters, and there's no three-hit character on my team.
I tested countless times against my defense, put the GS as you said and just got broken with the GS. Both CG and Allied Soldier are not procking more often than it should.
I could be using the yellow GS but it is not fair to use the broken mechanics of 3 hits proc.

[HomemLivre]

Well to be fair slauki, that team is easily countered by a hellhound since he has no prisoner.

But I agree in that it is futile for someone to complain about how certain team strategies are being "exploited" given how competitive PvP currently is.

If you want to make a complaint - contact the game team instead of expecting everyone to choose their teams from an ethical point of view.

Firstly I'm not expecting anyone to change their team by what I'm talking about, whoever changed by realizing how broken they use 3 hits + perfect hit has already changed by itself.
Second, the name of this Thread: Beta PVP Arena! Let's feedback here ~ *
This is a place with active developer participation and they always look for errors reported by everyone.
My words were the discontent of the use of broken mechanics by some players, not to request that they change their teams.
Cumps

[slauki]

The problem with DM applies with the use of 3-hit characters, and there's no three-hit character on my team.
I tested countless times against my defense, put the GS as you said and just got broken with the GS. Both CG and Allied Soldier are not procking more often than it should.
I could be using the yellow GS but it is not fair to use the broken mechanics of 3 hits proc.

the freezes proc more than they should and the DM seems to trigger more than the pyro soldier too. but that's not the point:

i just disliked, that you were demanding punishments for the players, while you also try to take some advantage from the mechanics. yeah you don't exploit it
so hard like others do, but you are targeting for a advantage too.

same with the other guys (and me too), even some are pushing harder than you. but they follow the rules and they don't cheat, so it's not their fault, the system is rigged. so i cannot see a reason for a punishment.

but i bet most of us are interested in a fair and balanced pvp-experience anyway and i really hope we will get it soon... so let's wait a week or two and hope for the best :-)

[HomemLivre]

the freezes proc more than they should and the DM seems to trigger more than the pyro soldier too. but that's not the point:

i just disliked, that you were demanding punishments for the players, while you also try to take some advantage from the mechanics. yeah you don't exploit it
so hard like others do, but you are targeting for a advantage too.

same with the other guys (and me too), even some are pushing harder than you. but they follow the rules and they don't cheat, so it's not their fault, the system is rigged. so i cannot see a reason for a punishment.

but i bet most of us are interested in a fair and balanced pvp-experience anyway and i really hope we will get it soon... so let's wait a week or two and hope for the best :-)

I understand what you said, I was pissed (I had lost more than 10 attacks against teams with 3 hitters + perfect hit including the pyro soldier) not to attack the same names again. Now thinking with more calm and seeing the feedback from you guys punishment would not be appropriate.
I do not say this because I use dm with single hitters and I will explain why:
- I have tested this build countless times on defense and single hitters have not proc more than they should have. I changed the DM to attack, put several other characters and the proc of my perfect attacks remain the same. So both DM and PS with single hit characters do not increase the chance of proc since attacking without them remains the same.
- I tested GS on the attack without the DM, it procs every time on the perfect hit, regardless of whether it has DM or not, so I do not even use it to attack.
- Conclusion after numerous tests: The problem is in the perfect attack proc with 3 hits, since an attack action counts as one attack (causing three perfect hits and only deducting once the passive perfect hit). The most viable solution in my point of view is in all the chars who attack more than once proc only in the first hit.
Just like you, I care about a clean game and just for that reason and above tests I continue to use dm on my team (and because I only have him with upgraded skills) without using 3 hits characters.
I also hope that with the next patch pvp will become healthier and more competitive.
Cumps.