February 14th 2017 PVP Arena Update Discussion

[Sparton_LOTB]

Could you help us on the number of attacks Issue?

I got attacked 290 times this week so far, that´s more than double last week´s numbers.

And last week I was attacked way less than anybody that shared theirs stats, any idea why? (I´m running the same defense)

Specifically regarding your low amount of defenses last week... we're kinda puzzled why that was the case for you too. Something about there being magnitudes more players competing in the game relative to the beta has made it so the matchmaking is prioritizing some people in a way that we didn't expect.

I don't want to get into too many specifics (in case there's an exploit to be had which can make people less likely to be attacked), but I have dived into it with a programmer and we're working on adjusting matchmaking values, changing some steps of the matchmaking logic, and ensuring we can sanity check matchmaking requests as though we were players on the live server (without actually affecting what those players would see).

In general, the game tries to populate your attack list with players around your VP and with players who have characters around the same strength as your characters, but it looks like you'll be more likely to be a possible attack list target for someone else at certain ranges of points in the leaderboard.

[gmac]

Specifically regarding your low amount of defenses last week... we're kinda puzzled why that was the case for you too. Something about there being magnitudes more players competing in the game relative to the beta has made it so the matchmaking is prioritizing some people in a way that we didn't expect.

I don't want to get into too many specifics (in case there's an exploit to be had which can make people less likely to be attacked), but I have dived into it with a programmer and we're working on adjusting matchmaking values, changing some steps of the matchmaking logic, and ensuring we can sanity check matchmaking requests as though we were players on the live server (without actually affecting what those players would see).

In general, the game tries to populate your attack list with players around your VP and with players who have characters around the same strength as your characters, but it looks like you'll be more likely to be a possible attack list target for someone else at certain ranges of points in the leaderboard.

Sparton,

It´s awesome that you guys come to chat with us.

Really, forum does not give you and Kaz enough credit.

Having said that, I´m as mad as hell, fells like my results, my effort, they were not real, and certainly unfair to others.

And this issue probably affected more people too... still do perhaps?!

I´m just sad, sad day in LOTB history overall
Best
Gmac

[Caretaker]

I don't want to get into too many specifics (in case there's an exploit to be had which can make people less likely to be attacked), but I have dived into it with a programmer and we're working on adjusting matchmaking values, changing some steps of the matchmaking logic, and ensuring we can sanity check matchmaking requests as though we were players on the live server (without actually affecting what those players would see).

In general, the game tries to populate your attack list with players around your VP and with players who have characters around the same strength as your characters, but it looks like you'll be more likely to be a possible attack list target for someone else at certain ranges of points in the leaderboard.

Oh GOD NO! You are still insisting on that mystical matchmaking that counts skills classes and talisman setup. Either don't, either EXPLAIN IT so everyone can calculate and counter. We'll have same lists each time all over again,no matter how you put it. Ufcorse there will be exploits. I exploit first turn already. At least it feels that way. Just make it uniform and random, point dependant, regardless of teams for some kind of variety, please.

[HomemLivre]

Well, looks like Im far away from people who get attacked several times.

Atm I was attacked a total of 362 times. I have no prisoner, no warrior troll, no sentinel allied bomber boy, no sentinel souless demon... what make it even worse.

I really want answers for this, its an unfair competition. How can I rank up like this? I have none of the toons mentioned before, what make my defense worse than the avarage. Im in need of spend lots more ironite to compensate the fact that I appear in EVERYONES list.

Last week I was attacked a total of 274 times in that few days. Will you guys compensate us (which are shown in everyones list) in the Ironite that we need to spend lots more than the others? Or you guys think we should buy from the store just to compensate this f* annoying bug? Im tired to be ignored in here and really want a response from the devs @Sparton_LOTB.

[mjmxiii]

Hey Sparton, have you guys given any thought to rewarding best defensive team in a given week? Highest DEF % out of highest total defensive matches = something cool? We all know what we get if we're 1-25 and attacking 24/7 but it would be cool if there was a reward for the top 1-25 defenses out there too. Might help ease the sting of being attacked 250+ times.

[slauki]

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That said, if you end up being stalled at this amount while spending all the energy you naturally regain even through to Saturday, then certainly we will have a problem, and we'll look at tuning to make it so players are not stalled at such a point so far before the rank-based divisions.

dear sparton,

exactly what you mentioned happend to me and many others. i'm stuck at 1900 points since monday! sure my defense dropped from 32% to only 21% that's definetly a big problem. but nontheless i played all "natural" sow and won 96% of all matches. most of them for 18+ points, but i'm still not able to get anyway near 2100 or even 2300 points. and the big rush will start tomorrow. i think many player suffer from this. so basicly there is no reason to play, if i don't want to spent huge amount of ironite. i bet you know who sisyphos is, because this is the pecfect example for a sisyphos work. the stone rolles down again and again.



please don't get me wrong. i don't expect to get near top 10 or even top 50 without refilling, so i have kinda realistic expectations i think. the problem is i cannot see any progress. it demotivates me and others, because we grind up, and then over night we fall down. that's really taking away the fun. it's not possible to build a 35% defense without some of the discussed toons. sure i could probaby think harder about my defense and talismans, since i have a pretty nice rooster, but 90% of all players are not that fortunate, so they have to play with what they have. and with the current system they many of them will loose the fun very soon.

[HomemLivre]

dear sparton,

exactly what you mentioned happend to me and many others. i'm stuck at 1900 points since monday! sure my defense dropped from 32% to only 21% that's definetly a big problem. but nontheless i played all "natural" sow and won 96% of all matches. most of them for 18+ points, but i'm still not able to get anyway near 2100 or even 2300 points. and the big rush will start tomorrow. i think many player suffer from this. so basicly there is no reason to play, if i don't want to spent huge amount of ironite. i bet you know who sisyphos is, because this is the pecfect example for a sisyphos work. the stone rolles down again and again.



please don't get me wrong. i don't expect to get near top 10 or even top 50 without refilling, so i have kinda realistic expectations i think. the problem is i cannot see any progress. it demotivates me and others, because we grind up, and then over night we fall down. that's really taking away the fun. it's not possible to build a 35% defense without some of the discussed toons. sure i could probaby think harder about my defense and talismans, since i have a pretty nice rooster, but 90% of all players are not that fortunate, so they have to play with what they have. and with the current system they many of them will loose the fun very soon.

Hope that he hears at least you, Slauki.

Im going to repost my previous reply with updated numbers:

Well, looks like Im far away from people who get attacked several times.

Atm I was attacked a total of 385 times. I have no prisoner, no warrior troll, no sentinel allied bomber boy, no sentinel souless demon... what make it even worse.

I really want answers for this, its an unfair competition. How can I rank up like this? I have none of the toons mentioned before, what make my defense worse than the avarage. Im in need of spend lots more ironite to compensate the fact that I appear in EVERYONES list.

Last week I was attacked a total of 274 times in that few days. Will you guys compensate us (which are shown in everyones list) in the Ironite that we need to spend lots more than the others? Or you guys think we should buy from the store just to compensate this f* annoying bug? Im tired to be ignored in here and really want a response from the devs @Sparton_LOTB.

[RCarter]

Atm I was attacked a total of 385 times. I have no prisoner, no warrior troll, no sentinel allied bomber boy, no sentinel souless demon... what make it even worse.

Not trying to compete here, but as of this writing I've been attacked 386 times. And that is with a Prisoner and Warrior Troll in my line up.

386 seems pretty high to me. Maybe RNGesus really doesn't like me after all...

[HomemLivre]

Not trying to compete here, but as of this writing I've been attacked 386 times. And that is with a Prisoner and Warrior Troll in my line up.

386 seems pretty high to me. Maybe RNGesus really doesn't like me after all...

Somethings definitely wrong in here and its not about rgn, its about a broken system that smash some players and let others enjoy a tour in the park.

[Lord Schmeb]

Hey Sparton, have you guys given any thought to rewarding best defensive team in a given week? Highest DEF % out of highest total defensive matches = something cool? We all know what we get if we're 1-25 and attacking 24/7 but it would be cool if there was a reward for the top 1-25 defenses out there too. Might help ease the sting of being attacked 250+ times.

This is a great idea. As Mel, the cook on Alice, says "The best oh-fense is a good defense." Or something like that.

Not trying to compete here, but as of this writing I've been attacked 386 times. And that is with a Prisoner and Warrior Troll in my line up.

386 seems pretty high to me. Maybe RNGesus really doesn't like me after all...

Ya, something is screwy. I am currently at 741 attacks and have only been attacked 195 times. (Of which I've only won FIFTEEN times (whopping 8%) -- ya, my defensive team is atrocious, but can't figure out a good strategy to save my life) Last week was similar; 461 attacks, but only attacked 85 times.

To say that I'm easy points would be the understatement of the year, and clearly nobody is avoiding me and my wicked 4-star lineup o-fury.