April 2017 Tuning Discussion - PRELIMINARY

[slauki]

Big difference between clearing list and attacking with nothing to gain. Don't expect anyone,trooper or not,to take it ez on me. Also shared some of the responsibility due to hanging around tier markers. As far as loyalty goes, I would say ur in the minority, could be wrong tho

i support the competition argument here, we are all on our own, out there in the arena. and actually you have something to gain in the last minutes. because your rank is so high you will gain much more coins before the reset. if you plan to take a break next week it's better to burn all sow before the reset.

and i really think it's way too much to demand of the troopers to check the stats and the rank of the target they are attacking. don't have the time nor the motivation to do that and i understand everyone who doesn't look at the rankings before attacking me. if someones on my list and i can beat him, bad luck, if i'm on someones list who can beat me bad luck for me :-) . Only thing i try is not to hit the same guys over and over again, but since the lists are still too narrow it's hard to do sometimes.

i think it's our responsibility if we don't wanna be pushed out of the ranks not the responsability of others.

[angelkelly]

Considering how you ranted and attacked other players for quite a while in an old PVP thread, I highly doubt what you've said here. I'll call your bluff right now and say that you'd likely be pretty pissed if a trooper of yours knocked you out of 5th place at the last minute. I understand the whole "it's a competition" argument, but you haven't shown any kind of self-control on the forums here before to make me think otherwise.

Honestly i wouldn't care like I stated before. It's call being "unattached". Which is something you will learn once you get over this game. And again I have admitted I went off in this forum at a select few.
But than again that was at a time, where I care so much about this game. Now at this very moment I could care less what happens.

There is too many bugs,server error, and overall issues that has kept me from loving this game like I once did before.

Bring on the attacks

[Silentknight]

i support the competition argument here, we are all on our own, out there in the arena. and actually you have something to gain in the last minutes. because your rank is so high you will gain much more coins before the reset. if you plan to take a break next week it's better to burn all sow before the reset.

and i really think it's way too much to demand of the troopers to check the stats and the rank of the target they are attacking. don't have the time nor the motivation to do that and i understand everyone who doesn't look at the rankings before attacking me. if someones on my list and i can beat him, bad luck, if i'm on someones list who can beat me bad luck for me :-) . Only thing i try is not to hit the same guys over and over again, but since the lists are still too narrow it's hard to do sometimes.

i think it's our responsibility if we don't wanna be pushed out of the ranks not the responsability of others.

Don't remember exact points but the difference between 2100 & 1900 for iron coins is minimal. Also if u have time to sit & yak in the forum,u have time to check ranks. I could care less where I finish, sit around tier ranks for entertainment purposes,think everyone enjoys a close race. Done with this shit! 1st thing I said was what's done is done. Nice to know where everyone stands tho!

[osiris0000]

Don't remember exact points but the difference between 2100 & 1900 for iron coins is minimal. Also if u have time to sit & yak in the forum,u have time to check ranks. I could care less where I finish, sit around tier ranks for entertainment purposes,think everyone enjoys a close race. Done with this shit! 1st thing I said was what's done is done. Nice to know where everyone stands tho!

Well, at first i can't call myself super competitive at PVP nowadays. But since i follow the thread and saw this long discussion, i can drop my 2 cents too.

I see your point Silentknight, it is some kind of unwritten rule. Or i can name it as "Trooper ethic", i understand it. And i believe most of us have that "Blood Brother" feeling with troopers. It is easy to mix that feelings when facing versus Troopers at PVP. Why? Because everyone have different kind of play-styles and Trooper ethics. And UNLESS you tell your troopers what is your expectation from them, this is what can happen... :





If i was "concerned" about how my troopers should behave at PVP, i would let them know from the start or somehow- so i don't get "disappointed" with them.

Basically, i agree with slauki.

i think it's our responsibility if we don't wanna be pushed out of the ranks not the responsability of others.

[CanyptianFit]

Either way, both sides are right, just depends on what you care or don't care about.

Reminds me of a Facebook game mafia wars, and you could create different mafias and join them and protect one another.

Maybe for those that care they can create "Bands" and be troopers with them and close to the reset of PVP, they would watch out for one another. Nothing wrong with that.

Personally I agree with both sides; but by and large I wouldn't attack a fellow trooper if they are on the edge, that's just me. At the same time, if I'm on a roll with a good streak going, sans prisoner, I'm clearing my list, unless my rank isn't critical.

To each his own...k, lets setup band boards!

[Silentknight]

Just 1 final thot & as with everything I post it is all imo. Everyone's got 1!
U guys/girls...there really should be an icon in here for sex! I'm sure there's a few girls in here that get called man, buddy,etc. all to often...Anyways
U 'people' brought up competition so...
In no other competition,sports as an example do teams/players show each other everything about their team. NF that's for you,wtf!
But as far as the forum,opposing teams/players do not share strategies & teammates,I.E. troopers help each other out! Not even help, u don't fu<K ur troopers! So make up ur mind...competition or not? 1/2 the problem is there's no set rules. Everyone's gunna play different,same with opinions. So there's always gunna be 'debates'. The only ones treating this as a competition are Nicko,Jofer & probably Alex,FallenAngel,poor,poor FallenAngel!, don't know those 2 but am proud to say all 4 are troopers. Jofer especially,competitively,by not sharing stats,although most 'competitions', stats are readily available. I only disagree with sharing stats cuz that's the ONLY secret!
I've made it pretty clear I'm here for fun only,but I am super competitive,that's why I hang around the rank tiers,entertainment & competition.
As far as Prisoner nerf, besides the fact that I love the fact he puts you at another level & let's face it, he's very beatable, it's the skill shards. I wouldn't even remove mine, I want em all sharded, but for anyone else that has put time,effort & money into this game...it's like NF is saying FU! So I'm kinda looking out for everyone else. Besides when they nerfed the freeze talismans I was pissed but my defense skyrocketed after,who knew I had a good team under all those talismans. 43% defense,I think,tops in forum,not the world probably & also not bragging but it does prove I know what I'm talking about when it comes to beating 'Lefty', cuz my d has dropped to 13%...same team.
Cherrypicking...funny thing,originally I thought it meant attacking top teams cuz to me cherrypicking is sitting in front of the net. Hockey! Didn't mean to offend anyone with the coward comment but if I don't attack top teams...that's how I feel. Plus I'll take my 85-93% of 20 points over 99% of 12 points any day,basic math! Especially when 70-80% of revenges are losses for more points!!! Actually thot that might be the reason for top guys not getting attacked. Too much cherrypicking is opening up a huge gap on top 5 or so,but Gmac's disproving that theory...still pretty early tho so we'll see.
HomemLivre, I apologize,maybe I jumped the gun but I wear my heart on my sleeve. 1st 3 day inactive ur back in, if u even want back in now u know how I am,lmao! Up 2 u.
Phew, longest one yet! As I said,everything is always imo,so have at it!
Peace Boys & Girls (& I can say that cuz I guarantee u I'm one of the oldest in here,lmao!)
L8r

[mjmxiii]

LMFAO!! I try not to attack anyone lol... fuckin PvP pitting player vs player and trooper vs trooper lol... how dare they! 😂

Man... you guys better attack the living shit out of me every goddamn chance you get! Trooper or not! Whether I'm 1st place or last!

I appreciate your attacks! Be good to each other and use profanity sometimes lol...

Cheers fuckers! 😆

[Silentknight]

LMFAO!! I try not to attack anyone lol... fuckin PvP pitting player vs player and trooper vs trooper lol... how dare they! 😂

Man... you guys better attack the living shit out of me every goddamn chance you get! Trooper or not! Whether I'm 1st place or last!

I appreciate your attacks! Be good to each other and use profanity sometimes lol...

Cheers fuckers! 😆

Entertaining isnt it!

[Liebhild]

Because the devs are ignoring my thread about probability, I ask here:

Are you manipulating the probability of effects, coin toss etc or are they really random?

[BonFire]

I'm middling at best, even with an OP Prisoner as everyone seems to think, so I rarely see a trooper. But when I do, I'm definitely gonna test the waters, and retest when the revenge hits. Though, I have once encountered someone with the exact same name as a trooper, but it wasn't them, because my trooper was 500 points above me, and this one was 200 below.

Oh, something that annoys me, but when you get the revenge list and you have someone who has attacked you 3 times, but you can only revenge twice. I'm not looking for best out of 5, give me the full 6.