Trooper Store Limits... the Final Nail in the Coffin...

[Jofer16]

Do you guys really want to boycott the store? I will look into creating some type of poll to see if that helps the devs realize that limiting this games resources is a bad idea. But everyone needs to voice their opinion with it and then if NF go ahead with it, then I say hell yeah, lets boycott that shit. We are their bosses. We dictate the flow. If we stick together on shit like this, they have no choice but to listen to us. We are not at their mercy, they are at ours. Believe that shit!

people still venture into the store? you guys are braver than I. just trying to come back and play a little and got this weird bug where I have a giant stack of shards and everytime I try to sell one, get a server error and crash, restarts don't fix it. ugh, makes me want to put it back down.

[mjmxiii]

people still venture into the store? you guys are braver than I. just trying to come back and play a little and got this weird bug where I have a giant stack of shards and everytime I try to sell one, get a server error and crash, restarts don't fix it. ugh, makes me want to put it back down.

That is the most annoying bug dude! I am convinced that every time runes go over 999 and create a new stack, it causes the MAC errors. Tried selling them in increments of every quantity and it happens no matter how many I sell at a time. They know about it... theyll get to it...its been like that for months... we have to request them to be sold through CS.

[Nicko]

Do you guys really want to boycott the store? I will look into creating some type of poll to see if that helps the devs realize that limiting this games resources is a bad idea. But everyone needs to voice their opinion with it and then if NF go ahead with it, then I say hell yeah, lets boycott that shit. We are their bosses. We dictate the flow. If we stick together on shit like this, they have no choice but to listen to us. We are not at their mercy, they are at ours. Believe that shit!

There was a player months ago - Flying V - very polarizing - who led a campaign to boycott the store. He had a reasonable number of people add "Boycott the store blah blah blah" to their sig lines. I don't think it had any effect - in fact I saw a few "Buy what you f'n want at the store" as well after that...

This whole discussion has me a little perplexed. Most here griping are reasonably active in PvP. You'll get the same number of shards each week with this new system - so what's the difference?

Not getting it. Four shards is four shards.

Same with Trooper Eddie. Dang - Eternity Eddie would be my LAST Eternal choice - VHE is really the only relevant Eddie at this point - so unless one is a collector - if I got Trooper Eddie he'd probably be sitting on the bench next to Eternity, Samurai, and Viking. I'd rather have Horus or another cool toon.

Certainly I could be off on this. Maybe Trooper Eddie is the next game breaking toon. But if history is any indicator - that's probably not the case - not to mention it's been stated loud and clear you WILL eventually get him and you will have plenty of time to save trooper badges because they will announce the soul weeks in advance.

Griping cause your game is always crashing? Or dealing with a ton of the stuff on Black Steels bugs thread? That I get cause it directly affects gameplay. Griping cause you can't get Trooper Eddie first day and your 4 skill shards are coming from different sources?

Still not getting it...

[JJJ428]

Thank you Nicko I am with you. I get some of the complaining in the forum but this trooper limit and having to have trooper eddie day one makes no sense. Its not like they are limiting an infinite farmable resource. As we have said before at best you can get 17500 trooper points a week and thats only if all 50 troopers are reliable and play every day. How much does limiting the skull shards to two a week really hurt? Plus like you said they are compensating by upping the arena the two a week. I can see somethings they do as quit worthy but this huge uproar over limiting trooper points and trooper eddie seems a bit overblown even for here. I think a few people need to take a breath and take a step back every once and awhile.

[mjmxiii]

Notice how no one actually said, "yes, we really want to boycott!" LMFAO... I remember the boycott signature that was going around back then. I say it will make as big a difference now as it did back then, 0.0 to 0.1 tenths of a percent difference.

In my opinion, I agree that we need to be far more concerned with bugs that have never been addressed or still happen even though they are fixed. I said in a prior post that Troop Ed will come eventually, before dupes do... but they shouldnt lock up skill shards, in fact I think they should open them up more! Unlimited in both stores because at the moment, I need hundreds of them! And at this rate, I'm gonna be ready for a rocking chair by the time I finish maxing these toons man!

[Inishmore]

It’s interesting how the discussion here in the forum is kind of biased at the moment. Yes, there are bugs and yes, there are overpowered characters. However for me the main problem was, not knowing what will be done and where the game was going. I am not willing to spend real money, if there are no plans for the future. Therefore I am really grateful for Kaz and Sparton taking the time to answer questions and smooth things out with the player base. It shows they did notice that there was a general dissatisfaction among the regular players and they acted accordingly.

Now there is always a difference between talking the talk and walking the walk. Nonetheless I am willing to give them the benefit of the doubt and see whether NF is going where their mouth is. In other words the next two updates are crucial to me and we will see how that will come out.

Finally concerning the trooper store limits: I do not share the negative attitude of the majority (?) in here. Yes, I would prefer to have none however at max you were able to buy 3 skill shards per week via the shop. Now that is limited to 2. If you look at the numbers it’s not that bad especially because the number of skill shards available in the arena store will be raised. So all in all you can get the same amount via different channels. If you look at the percentage it is bad, since it equals a 50% reduction of availability. And yes, players (as myself) not playing 300 battles a week in the arena have a disadvantage now. But still in my opinion that is not a deal (or game) breaker if the other concerns are being addressed.

So to sum it up: Thanky you Kaz and Sparton for taking the time and share NFs plans that was necessary to calm our temper. However it is now up to you to actually deliver… so no pressure there!

[DaveMurray]

Boycott the store? Come one who are we kidding? I myself told that i won't buy anything again 3 times and i always do..

[slauki]

i'm with nicko, jjj and inishmore, cannot see the reason to start a riot because of this. 4 shards is 4 shards and actually it'S better that we can spend some coins and save some badges, so we can buy other cool stuff from the trooper store.

so actually they do us a favour, if it works like they have announced. we will have 7k badges we can invest in the other parts of the store while our total skillshard amount is not affected. what exactly is bad about this?

if you complain about never ending bugs, okay, but this discussion about 2 or 3 skillshard is really unnecessary and causes unnecessary bad vibritions.

[Patrice-1201]

To me the point is also about the souls
For instance when Lystic was released I spent a bit of badges on blue souls and got him like that. Basically I will always save badges and spend some On souls when a new toon of that class is released. Can't do that anymore with weekly limits...

[mjmxiii]

Boycott the store? Come one who are we kidding? I myself told that i won't buy anything again 3 times and i always do..

Calling peoples bluffs is always fun as far as I'm concerned....People talk but no one really wants to follow through with the riot. We love this game and we all take this a bit too seriously, one way or another and its hard to read levity and sarcasm without this emoji :rolleyes: working ...:rolleyes: I just picked up two sets of Chance this morning. Was way easier than grinding BNW ad naseum. Immortal talismans next please!

Still though... I stand by my initial thoughts on store limits.. for reasons like this...

The game is designed for us to get 17500 badges per week and particularly I am only interested in skillshards ( let's say I am one of those who don't play PVP) , now every 2 weeks I would be able to get only 4 skillshards instead of 7, doesn't look fair to me...

And this...

To me the point is also about the souls
For instance when Lystic was released I spent a bit of badges on blue souls and got him like that. Basically I will always save badges and spend some On souls when a new toon of that class is released. Can't do that anymore with weekly limits...

I dont have an issue with Trooper Ed and how he will drop knowing that dupe prevention will be implemented and agree with Slauki and Nicko that the other Trooper chars will more than likely be more effective than another Ed. People who don't play PvP religiously or who have yet to amass a large amount of gold will suffer most and like Patrice eluded to, we won't have much choice but to buy the special souls when chars like Mystic are released if we want to get a specific char and it makes more PvP a necessity if we want max skill shards. Still, none of this stuff is a deal breaker as much as bugs are. Stability is non-existent and that should be the top priority atm. Reading Spartons post in the PVP Attrition thread is cool but we can only wait and see how it goes. Would also like to see different chars with the ability to lead teams in PvP as Eds are basically VHE if you have him and no decent substitute if you don't. Thats a different subject though.