April 2017 Tuning Discussion - PRELIMINARY

[Nicko]

Nicko, no man, you're wrong.

Because of the complaints on the nerf they are now considering applying the debuff to EVERY TOON, EVERY ROUND.

But the complaints happened because everybody thought every immunity would counter it, INCLUDING HH AND ART DOG.

This is a big mess, if the debuff is indeed applied to every toon at the start of the battle, there is pretty much no difference, all passives will still be useless, and nothing will change on offence for prisoners teams, you will kill all passives first round, and deal with the talismans, the same as now!

Devs, the best way is all immunity counters it, including HH and Art Dog. If not It can't aplly to every toon, otherwise there is pretty much no difference from what is already happening.

I don't think I'm wrong. Immunity DOES counter it - unless you can't cast immunity. The Prisoner has a chance to trump the Hellhounds passive ability to cast immunity - BUT NOT IF THE HELLHOUND HAS IMMUNITY TALISMANS. Then the Prisoner can't stop him from granting immunity to the entire party, which neuters his ability to debuff anyone. Safe though first round. Second round and on? Cast immunity as a skill, not a passive - and that immunity on each member continues giving protection from the Prisoner.

So send an ordinary Hellhound? Yes - there's a 50% chance you won't get immunity from him. But equip him with Immunity Talismans? You're set - as i pointed out in my original post.